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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That argument provides "justification" to kill any civilian.

[–] Fimbulwinter@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you fine with allowing them to set the bar that low though?

[–] Fimbulwinter@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No. And look, to be honest I never understood why some people claim that Israel is purposefully targeting civilians. They are not, and the mortality rate of terrorist/civilians is some of the best if not the best in any modern urban war anywhere. Hamas just reports every death as civilian, and men of ages up to 21 as children. Not saying there have been no actual civilians, children and women killed in Gaza, but there is a clear intent to minimize innocent casualties, at least where I’m observing things from.

Also, a few days ago the IDF rescued 2 hostages for the first time, I hope that made international news.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It did but they also killed tens of thousanda of civilians, and more journalists than in any other recent conflict. They are not trying to reduce it at all. You don't displace 1.7 million people or destroy 21 out of 22 hospitals, or bomb escape corridors or refigeee camps, or the last standing city in the region, or kill a bunch of hostages, or prevent the majority of humanitarian aid from being put in, or cut off electricity and gas, or preventing journalists from going in or specifically targeting them, when you're trying to reduce civilian casualties. 2/3 of the deaths are women and children, they're not inflating civilian deaths. It's the opposite. Israel counts every death as Hamas lol. We have a bunch of proof. We'd have more if Israel didn't keep killing journalists.

but there is a clear intent to minimize innocent casualties, at least where I’m observing things from.

So this is what being brainwashed looks like.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Also, a few days ago the IDF rescued 2 hostages for the first time, I hope that made international news.

And that takes them murdering over 5.000 innocent civilians per month. Hope that brown people blood is worth it.