Politicians don't run the US. Corporations do. The reason US funding continues is because the military industrial complex is making bank — stealing billions of dollars from the people to genocide brown people is win-win for the sociopath oligarchs that own these corporations.

[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I ask this a lot, but why prefix fascist with Christo? ALL European fascism has always been Christian and explicitly so. It's an inheritance from the Holy Roman Empire that dominated Europe and engaged in ethnic cleansing in the name of God. It's the same Christian Manifest Destiny that genocide the indigenous in the western hemisphere. It's the same Christianity that led to an explicit policy of rape by the Spanish all over Latin America to breed out the unclean blood and save as many souls as possible. It's never NOT been Christian.

Just call it what it is. It's fascism. It's the same fascism.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because the average person doesn't know the direct ties between Christianity and Nazism, so it's a good tool to catch them up to speed.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But it sounds like it's somehow different from regular fascism when you qualify it with a prefix.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

It's the first step towards realizing "oh god, ALL fascism is christofascism"

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago

I mean…you kinda said it there. European fascism can trace its lineage to European Christian kings, empires, and popes. But that’s fascism born of Europe. As others have said fascism has been and is practiced elsewhere and with different religious and cultural influences.

Christo is merely an aesthetic modifier. It tells you what surface level flavor of fascism to expect. Remember that Nazis used language and themes of socialism in their aesthetic as well. It’s why we still refer to them as Nazis and not solely fascists.

Though I understand your point. Why not call a christo-fascist and a Nazi the same thing. You certainly can; no one’s going to stop you. At its core fascism is always the same malignant stage of capitalistic rot. It’s practitioners will use whatever aesthetics they wants. Whatever works. Some may find it useful to describe the aesthetic quality of one fascism to expose its core similarities to other instances of fascism.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No they don't. Biden isn't anyone's first pick, but he's hands-down better than the alternative.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 months ago

Y'all keep saying that but I have yet to see any of you point any actual material difference between Trump's presidency vs during Biden's presidency.

What changed after the transition from Trump to Biden except rhetoric? As far as I know, oppressed minorities kept having their rights taken away 1 by 1 the same as before, police kept being over funded the same as before, migrants from the southern border kept being detained in literal concentration camps at the border the same as before, things kept getting more financially difficult for the average American every day the same as before, big polluter corporations kept polluting without consequences the same as before, the military budget kept getting ramped up every year the same as before, what is different in the real world outside the clown-show that is your political system? Where the fuck does that "not good but definitely better" goes when you stop going by the words of these known serial liars for to seconds and take a peak at what as changed in the actual lives of the American people?

The only difference I see is that the Republicans is taking an active approach and pass laws directly whereas the Democrats is more passive and like to let the Republicans and other far right parties pass laws while standing there awkwardly and pretending they can do nothing about it.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that's only like 1% if not less. Not that voting is an effective vehicle change on its own anyways.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

Muslim votes are what can prevent him from winning states like Michigan. Percentage of the popular vote doesn't matter, the electoral college does.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

He knows they have no choice. If its not him, it would be Trump. Since people in Gaza have little money, Trump wouldnt care if IDF wipe them out

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago

That's true but that's not stopping Muslims (particularly in Michigan) from running dropping Biden, or even voting for Trump, campaigns. The idea is to show Biden that they're not all talk, but either way his reaction tells us he doesn't "know" anything.

[–] filister@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Not defending Biden, but seriously if you were a Muslim voter would you rather vote for Trump then? I can only assume he isn't very popular with those voters either, so they are left with very little choice and not voting for Biden is more or less the same as voting for Trump.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Maybe

Imran Khan was "coincidentally" able to gain a majority in Pakistan after 20 years trying with his party. He wasn't perfect, but he targeted a lot of corruption and revamped the economy by convincing big companies to enter and expand business there, especially in the tech sector.

He had decent relations with the USA because Imran Khan met Trump several times long before he became president, probably due to his status as a cricket captain.

Then Trump got replaced for handling covid like a [insert favorite insult], and magically Imran Khan and the USA became cold again just like Obama. Biden outright refused to talk to IK and kept sending his defence secretary to demand US bases in Pakistan while leaving Afghanistan.

Then the moment IK showed a hint of resistance, they told the army to get rid of him or face consequences. Now he's sitting in jail, banned from being shown or mentioned on TV, banned from direct internet access, and banned from having his party run in elections. Oh and several of his party members are dead, hundreds if not thousands tortured, and internet cuts with police deployments whenever his supporters try to rally together.

Naturally the economy self destructed, every corrupt politician came back since they're in bed with the army, and elections were unconstitutionallly delayed for an entire year (and just happened 2 weeks ago).

So a Muslim nation of 231 million suffered because the USA loves "spreading democracy" by approving coups and getting people killed all because they dared to have sovereignty.

Except magically it only happened under Biden and not Trump.

So yes. There is a pretty good chance Muslims will vote for Trump.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago

Y'all are... tiring... I'm just gonna copypaste my answer to an other comment of the same thread:

Y’all keep saying that but I have yet to see any of you point any actual material difference between Trump’s presidency vs during Biden’s presidency.

What changed after the transition from Trump to Biden except rhetoric? As far as I know, oppressed minorities kept having their rights taken away 1 by 1 the same as before, police kept being over funded the same as before, migrants from the southern border kept being detained in literal concentration camps at the border the same as before, things kept getting more financially difficult for the average American every day the same as before, big polluter corporations kept polluting without consequences the same as before, the military budget kept getting ramped up every year the same as before, what is different in the real world outside the clown-show that is your political system? Where the fuck does that “not good but definitely better” goes when you stop going by the words of these known serial liars for to seconds and take a peak at what as changed in the actual lives of the American people?

The only difference I see is that the Republicans is taking an active approach and pass laws directly whereas the Democrats is more passive and like to let the Republicans and other far right parties pass laws while standing there awkwardly and pretending they can do nothing about it.