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Headline appears to read: Trump vows to go on the lam if convicted (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by Phlogiston@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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I'm sure huffpost knew what they're implying. In truth he's vowing to continue his presidential run from prison if necessary. The headline on their actual article is clearer: "Trump Vows To Run For President From Prison If Convicted"

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago

Wouldn't a conviction of the January 6th insurrection bar him from office via the 14th Ammendment?

Kinda sure stoking a rebellion against the government is a bigly no-no.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Only if he is charged with either aiding or inciting an insurrection. It has to specifically be one of those charges, or actual treason based on all of the legal interpretations I have seen.

[-] Buckshot@programming.dev 17 points 11 months ago

So a felon can't vote but could run for president?

[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Well yea. A felon running for prez implies they are the right kind of felon: wealthy.

While a felon who can't vote is : poor, poc, not worthy of participating in our lovely, high-water mark democracy.

[-] McNasty@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

I'm a felon, and I can vote.

Not a bullshit felony, either. I pled to 3 armed robbery charges, got 14 years with a mandatory 7 in North Carolina.

My sentence made me ineligible for parole, and when I was released they presented me with a document called "Restoration of Citizenship" which restored all rights (except firearm ownership I think. Not gonna test that one.)

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Assuming that you're in a better place now where you aren't going to be committing more violent crimes, you should probably get that clarified.

In many states, felons do not have the right to vote. That's been a big push for certain segments of liberals, on the theory that people that can't vote are less personally invested in the society that they're a part of. E.g., they're unable to fully integrate, and therefore are more likely to reoffend.

[-] McNasty@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've been out more than 25 years, with no recidivism.

Not all states restore your rights automatically, but the wording on the document is quite clear about restoring voting rights.

Restoration of Citizenship is a vital document, just like a birth certificate.

Edit to add a bit of the relevant law:

All rights are automatically restored upon “unconditional discharge” of sentence or unconditional pardon. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 13-1. This language has been interpreted to include payment of all court debt, a barrier to voting ruled unconstitutional under the State constitution in September, 2020, that is the subject of ongoing litigation.1 The agency releasing the prisoner (or probationer) must file a certificate evidencing unconditional discharge and restoration of the rights of citizenship with the court in the county of conviction (North Carolina state offenses) or the county of residence (for offenses under federal law or the law of another state). § 13-2.

The paperwork I have mentions "...all rights including the right to vote..." I have gotten conflicting advice on whether that includes firearms, but I'm not pushing it. I can hunt with a bow.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The Government doesn’t want you to know about this one trick!

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Weird right? Somebody should probably do something to address both of those issues.

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