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For context - Trotsky's own position on the Sino-Japanese War was far more reasonable:
(Leon Trotsky, On the Sino-Japanese War, 1937)
Note the conclusion of "We must win influence and prestige in the military struggle against the foreign invasion and the political struggle against the weaknesses, the deficiencies, and the internal betrayal" - even if skeptical in the KMT being a reliable ally, completely the opposite of "never collaborating with the bourgeois KMT government", and definitely not advocating for taking up arms against the KMT yet.
So, why did the Chinese Trotskyists have a different, incorrect position? Because they were already getting violently purged for years with the help of the KMT out of reasons initially completely unrelated to the Sino-Japanese war. They were already a fringe, beheaded tendency in China, their leaders imprisoned or dead, which is why their positions deformed in this way, and not because they were dirty Trots who just want defeat for all communism. But they sure did make a convenient bogeyman nevertheless.
So they lost the internal Party power struggle and they got so pissy about it they went completely suicidal out of spite? You're not making them look good tbh.
Because unlike the dumb trots, MLs and MLMs definitely always have the correct party line on everything, especially the less members they have and the more generally obscure they are, am I right?
In fact, this is why you can just choose any ML or MLM party you want, no matter how small, and engage with just that one party's line, because they are actually all equally correct! For example, let's say the Italian PMLI, who... support sending weapons to Ukraine?
Uh-oh, not a good look for the Stalinists!
Dumb guy asking you to clarify: they ultimately took their stance because of course they denounced the guy who was killing them?
That makes sense, it is a rare person who could make peace with the people killing and/or torturing their comrades.