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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (6 children)

And what's to stop instance owners from selling their data?

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The eggs are not all in one basket. Less data to sell.

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago

Thanks to federation, the copies of the eggs are. You can’t stop one instance from selling data sourced from federated content until it’s too late.

[–] MostlyGibberish@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

The only thing stopping them is the fact that anyone who wants the data can just utilize the federation protocol to take any data they want, and there's not a lot anyone can do about it. You can't sell something that's trivial to get for free.

If the question you're really asking is "what's stopping content on Lemmy/Mastodon/etc from being used to train an LLM?" the answer is, nothing.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

You can't put a price tag on it. Nothing is stopping anyone from scraping all of the data for free.

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

mass user exodus to one of the many other identical Instances. Also, data brokers prolly aren't interested in going after each Instance because no one instance has enough data to make it worthwhile. Yet again, the fediverse proves its resistance to enshitification.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

Lmao, if it gets as big as Reddit then it's worth scraping. It's not the fediverse making it less worthwhile, just the size.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's not worth running an instance! So let's all run one! LOL. It's so worth it. Fuck reddit.

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Ilgaz@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I wished they had evil lawyers looking after such stuff and sold strictly opt in data to AI corps. Free for FOSS though.