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[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

“Set a timer that goes off at 9:15 am”

*It proceeds to lecture me on the difference between an alarm and a timer, also, sets neither. *

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, I think the wording confuses it.

Timers are set for a duration. Alarms are set for a time. Which makes sense btw, you can't set an egg timer to 9:15 either, you set it for, say, 21 minutes (if it's 8:54 right now). And you don't set your alarm clock for "in 6 hours", you set it for 8:00.

It's a bit arbitrary, but this is exactly where I feel models such as Gemini or ChatGPT can actually improve things, because they can more readily leap from the keyword "timer" expecting a duration to that you actually meant "alarm" from the rest of the input, you just said timer instead.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I understand, I got the lecture from Siri.

The point is all timers are alarms, the end result of a timer going off is an alarm. If I’m cooking and I realize the rice has been on for about 7 minutes so it should finish up at 9:15, then that’s how I’m thinking about it, not doing the math to figure out what the specific number of minutes is between now and 9:15. That’s the goddamned robot’s job.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think if you realize youve been cooking rice for about 7 minutes you will definitely think in terms of time LEFT and not at what time o'clock it should be ready. "Oh it's been cooking for about 7 minutes then it needs another 8"

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Well they are different, so why would it set one if you didn't specify what do you mean exactly

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ok I’ve tossed this comment around in my head a few times, and I can’t fathom why you bothered to make it. What the fuck is the difference between an alarm that goes off at 9:15 and a timer that goes off at 9:15?

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Timer counts down time and can be paused; an alarm goes off at particular time and can only be snoozed after it goes off. Alarms take into account timezones and time changes, timers are absolute and independent of "clock" time

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah in theory but not if I tell it when to set the alarm off. It’s just useless pedantry. Like your virtual assistant is a redditor or something

[–] Iapar@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago