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Sometimes the best way to understand why something is going wrong is to look at what’s going right. The asylum seekers from the border aren’t the only outsiders in town. Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine brought a separate influx of displaced people into U.S. cities that quietly assimilated most of them. “We have at least 30,000 Ukrainian refugees in the city of Chicago, and no one has even noticed,” Johnson told me in a recent interview.

According to New York officials, of about 30,000 Ukrainians who resettled there, very few ended up in shelters. By contrast, the city has scrambled to open nearly 200 emergency shelters to house asylees from the southwest border.

What ensured the quiet assimilation of displaced Ukrainians? Why has the arrival of asylum seekers from Latin America been so different? And why have some cities managed to weather the so-called crisis without any outcry or political backlash? In interviews with mayors, other municipal officials, nonprofit leaders, and immigration lawyers in several states, I pieced together an answer stemming from two major differences in federal policy. First, the Biden administration admitted the Ukrainians under terms that allowed them to work right away. Second, the feds had a plan for where to place these newcomers. It included coordination with local governments, individual sponsors, and civil-society groups. The Biden administration did not leave Ukrainian newcomers vulnerable to the whims of Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who since April 2022 has transported 37,800 migrants to New York City, 31,400 to Chicago, and thousands more to other blue cities—in a successful bid to push the immigration debate rightward and advance the idea that immigrants are a burden on native-born people.

To call this moment a “migrant crisis” is to let elected federal officials off the hook. But a “crisis of politicians kicking the problem down the road until opportunists set it on fire” is hard to fit into a tweet, so we’ll have to make do.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240222123138/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/asylum-seekers-migrant-crisis/677464/

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What ensured the quiet assimilation of displaced Ukrainians? Why has the arrival of asylum seekers from Latin America been so different? And why have some cities managed to weather the so-called crisis without any outcry or political backlash? In interviews with mayors, other municipal officials, nonprofit leaders, and immigration lawyers in several states, I pieced together an answer stemming from two major differences in federal policy. First, the Biden administration admitted the Ukrainians under terms that allowed them to work right away. Second, the feds had a plan for where to place these newcomers. It included coordination with local governments, individual sponsors, and civil-society groups. The Biden administration did not leave Ukrainian newcomers vulnerable to the whims of Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who since April 2022 has transported 37,800 migrants to New York City, 31,400 to Chicago, and thousands more to other blue cities—in a successful bid to push the immigration debate rightward and advance the idea that immigrants are a burden on native-born people.

Yes, those are the only two reasons. I can't imagine white another reason might be.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wonder how much of the "successful integration" had to do with being able to work legally without restrictions on Day 1?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also, Ukrainians are predominantly white, which Republicans are ok with.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Republican party is a racist organization that ought to be electorally shoved into the dustbin of history, no argument there.

But what's Biden's excuse? It's his administration that's been making the decisions to get us to this point.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Biden's excuse is the same institutional racism that is the Republicans' excuse. I mean it's no secret that Biden has race issues too. The problem is that Trump is far worse. So you either hold your nose and vote for Biden, you vote for someone who has no realistic likelihood of winning, or don't vote. I would suggest that only the first of these will stop that treasonous rapist wannabe-dictator from regaining power.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I mean it's no secret that Biden has race issues too

You have no idea how refreshing it is to not be gaslit about this for once. Honestly, hearing people acknowledge his flaws makes me a lot more ok with voting for him, because I can hold on to the belief that maybe there will be enough political pressure on the party that these mistakes won't get repeated by the next Democratic president.

The problem is that Trump is far worse.

Tell me about it

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Biden is a Democrat. He saw an opportunity to both cave to Republicans and legitimize their bullshit. Of course he seized the opportunity.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I'd say that third reason is fueling the other two. Doing anything to support southern migrants makes racist douchebags go bonkers and the Biden administration is afraid to have that fight for some reason, so they ignore the situation and now we're here and the only ideas they have are more cops and more deterrence.

Our political leaders today are all either bigots or bigot-enabling cowards. Thank goodness we live in a democracy with rights to free speech and assembly because I don't know how else we're going to get those leaders to act like human beings again.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, those are the only two reasons. I can’t imagine white another reason might be.

I doubt that the mayor of New York is a white supremacist, but I could be wrong.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

He doesn't have to be a white supremacist to support white supremacy in government.

He's a cop.