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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Can he though? Seems to me that a lot of the things Biden does don't get noticed by people. Either because of laziness and apathy on their part, or due to horrible reporting from our less than a reputable media at this point. A lot of the best accomplishments don't get talked about, some are even misremembered. You still hear people talk about the the rail worker strike and yet completely forget how it ended with Biden getting the rail workers pretty much everything they wanted. I don't know if that's just ignorance or purposeful misinformation what I hear it from people though. A lot of his reforms have been some of the most progressive in decades, yet people on the internet especially just pretend they don't exist for some reason. Is it messaging or is it purposeful? Hard to say.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Biden is a liberal, and is making moves for liberals, yes. People here are leftists, and want moves made for leftists. Being slightly more progressive for a liberal is not what leftists want, it's what progressive liberals want.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Well leftist might want to grow the fuck up and realize that the choice is between a straight-up fascist and a progressive liberal. So the time to whinge about it would have been years ago when they could build up their own candidate and start campaigning for them. Instead, cuz they're lazy, they'd rather now subvert democracy in a huff. They're going to end up learning the lesson of Weimar Germany, that when the fascists come to power they murder the leftists. It's what I can't understand at this point, is it ignorance or is it malfeasance?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This same exact line has been thrown at leftists every election cycle for the last 50 years. The fun thing? The liberals sided with the fascists in Nazi Germany, lol.

I never suggested that leftists shouldn't vote for Biden over Trump, but get off your high horse and realize that what's good for liberals is not necessarily good for leftists, and leftists have a right to complain and criticize. Liberals are not entitled to votes just because they aren't as bad as fascists, at the end of the day both are bad.

Again, I'm going to vote for Biden, but I'll absolutely clown on him for being a lukewarm liberal propping up genocide as well.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 3 points 6 months ago

Ah it's time for today's episode of Schrodingers Leftist -

Just a bunch of stupid babies for Democrats to bat around for fun, never to be taken seriously

But also

Single handedly to blame for every single dem loss.

Just admit yall are just as fascist and capitalist as the Republicans and you hate leftists more than you do MAGA. 🤷

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I grew up and realized I’ll never get a government I actually like, and now just vote for the one who makes nice sounds.

Giving up hope made me feel a lot better about this shitshow.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You still hear people talk about the the rail worker strike and yet completely forget how it ended with Biden getting the rail workers pretty much everything they wanted

Biden subverted the workers' rights to strike, it doesn't matter what the outcome was. Unions have the right to strike anytime for any reason and no President should have the legal authority to interfere in negotiations for any reason, point blank.

The railworkers strike set precedent that strikes could only happen if the President wanted them to, which is a really fucking awful thing to do. But I'd expect no less from a neolib.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

See this is exactly what I'm talking about here. First the ignorance and thinking that set of precedent and not the hundred years that has come before it. Then the concept of no it doesn't matter the results. Just the arrogance of saying results don't matter when it comes to governance. This is the problem in a nutshell right here.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Okay so best case scenario is that Biden didn't do anything to change union rights in America and followed the past 100 years and worst case is that he showed that not even the dems actually support workers right to strike? Am I following you right? The president isn't the daddy of America. You fuckers talk all the time about how "Joe Biden doesnt control the economy" when he literally stepped into a private negotiation to force people back to work. It was illegal when Raegan did it and it was illegal when Biden did it.

It doesn't matter the results. Biden subverted the workers' rights to strike. He could've gotten them 10x more than they were petitioning for and it would've still been a disaster for unions in the long-term. Union rights aren't subject to the whim of whoever is sitting in the Oval Office.