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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

war mongers got their way in the end and now we are where we are

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, the warmongers don't seem to be doing so well. It's been well over 100x (coming up on 200x) of the initial timeline with no victory in sight.

With respect to your original statement though, we have now seen which sources were more accurate so we can judge more carefully who to take seriously in future.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are making good money off this war though, including in Ukraine. There have been lots of reports of grand scale embezzlement of the funds and resources being sent for the war.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's your hypothesis here? Some corrupt folks in Ukraine figured that maybe if Russia attacked and on the chance than the country could maintain a solid defence and assuming that western nations would be willing to send large amounts of military aid over a sustained conflict there could be money to be made? Seems like quite a dice roll to me let alone how they could exert influence over Russia to get them to invade. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're suggesting but it seems pretty implausible to me.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only a child would come up with a hypothesis like this. An adult would understand that Ukrainian oligarchs keep their wealth in western banks, and they make money through the corrupt government they set up after the coup in 2014. If you think Ukrainian oligarchs care about Ukraine any more than US oligarchs care about the US then you must've been born yesterday.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Damn you got me, I was born yesterday. It's been a wild 24 hours.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Olga is glad that Russia has intervened in the conflict, and she indeed corrected me when I once referred to the Russian SMO as an “invasion”, telling me that Russia did not invade. Rather, they were invited and welcomed in. That does seem to be the prevailing view in Donetsk as far as I can tell.

Russia, Donbass, and the reality of the conflict in Ukraine