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A 1956 agreement that allowed British boats to fish in the Barents Sea has been ripped up, in the latest sign of growing tensions between Moscow and the West.

The fishing deal was signed by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, but Russian politicians have now claimed it was never in the national interest.

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Russia's parliamentary speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said: "The British need to study some proverbs - 'Russians harness the horse slowly, but ride it fast'."

He told politicians that "the unscrupulous British" had eaten Russian fish for 68 years - declaring: "Now let them lose weight, get smarter."

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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Country with no warm water ports say what?

[–] IsThisLoss@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

breaking: liberal DESTROYS sevastopol through sheer force of will

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

warm water ports

A meme that will only look sillier as climate change gets worse

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This guy doesn't understand climate change lol

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-53308-5

As Arctic ice continues to melt, [the Arctic Northern Sea Route] is anticipated to become more accessible to ships, albeit with navigational availability remaining contingent on the ship category and seasonal considerations.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

seasonal considerations

A nice way of saying with warmer climates weather becomes more intense and less predictable.

The artic north sea route also isn't what prevents them from using the port the entire year. It freezes, it will continue to freeze especially with the harsher cold snaps the globe faces.

Again you don't seem to understand climate change it is not "lol planet gets hot teehee"

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

artic north sea

When you have a deep understanding of the issue

It freezes, it will continue to freeze

No, the likely scenario is that maximal ice coverage will (continue to) recede noticeably.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lol okay you're right Russia is immune to climate change. St. Petersburg definitely isn't having flooding issues and Vladivostok didn't get smashed by a freak ice storm that other places across the globe have also been smashed by

None of that happened I guess climate change isn't a problem

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

smuglord

We're talking about ports icing over, which will happen less as global temperatures rise. Bringing up other climate change problems (that are far from unique to Russia) does not change that.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

you know westoids get flooded way worse than russia right
their most populous area is literally 10 ft above sea level, for the entire country

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also like, Britain is islands and Russia is the largest country in the world. Who do you think is better equipped to handle rising sea levels? I know which has a LOOOOOT more inland.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago

Russia faces more flooding than the UK because of thawing snow and ice you dummy.

You don't even know the country you're trying to defend. Learn geography moron

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay? St Petersburg has an issue with flooding. I don't know what you're trying to convince me of lmfao it's just the truth.

It is also the truth that Vladivostok got hit by a freak ice storm and their port freezes about 4 months out of the year.

Russia has always had struggles with ports. Climate change won't save them and will actively harm them like everyone else. Climate change also is not flat warming, that's what stupid people believe.

Why are you so insecure about those facts??

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

St Petersburg has an issue with flooding

and Europe has a much bigger problem with flooding. Lemme just recap the tantrum:

  1. "LMAO Russia doesn't have any warm water ports" -- you
  2. uhh you know that's going to become less true as global warming progresses?
  3. "LOL but St Petersburg is gonna get flooded from the meltwater" -- you
  4. yea but Europe is going to get the same flood but 10x worse? Dutchland? Hello?
  5. "UHH IDK WHAT you're tryna CONVINCE me of, I'm just stating facts!! I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" -- you

Climate change won't save them and will actively harm them like everyone else. Climate change also is not flat warming, that's what stupid people believe.

Yes, but some areas get hurt worse by climate change. Yes, it's not flat warming all at once. However both of these things fuck Europe over more than Russia. The AMOC gulf stream keeps Europe warm, not Russia. The entire Mediterranean is also going to be hurt particularly bad by droughts and wildfires. So that's a ton more refugees, not only from outside Europe but even from Southern Europe.

These problems simply do not exist for Russia, and its population density is far lower, and it will gain continents' more arable/habitable land as the climate warms, AND it will also receive more rainfall. It is not even close to a contest to say that Russia benefits more from climate change than any other nation on earth. If you don't think so, then post even one climate-induced problem that's unique to Russia (you can't)

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

that's absolutely not what happened lmfao

go defend russia with your body sis

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I literally don't care about Russia. Also get your tenses right, none of this shit happened yet. But 50 different climate models predict it to

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you actually retarded?

This is what happened

  • jokes about Russian ports

  • you begin flailing your arms, shidding, crying and cumming about Russia

also simp fuckin harder.

So let's break it down. First of all Russia has been saying for a decade that they'll use climate change to their advantage, this is called PROPAGANDA. Because it just isn't true or possible.

Let's check.

Permafrost releasing Anthrax and causing infrastructure to literally fall apart? What do you do when the ground melts below you??

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/01/anthrax-outbreak-climate-change-arctic-circle-russia

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52977740

On top of that Russia is heating 2.5 times faster than the rest of the world. So much so that entire villages are lost to flooding in Siberia. Russia also will only face more and more wildfires as temperatures increase and the conifer trees will be forced to retreat north.

You mentioned them gaining more land to farm, untrue. Russia's breadbasket is the case because of the soil. The soil they'd get from thawing will actually reduce the amount of useable land. Why? Because the soil in the north is acidic as fuck and not great for crops especially the ones Russia tends to grow.

Excluding all of that. Climate change will increase the amount of fighting in the world which Russia kind of fuckin sucks at. Famines will happen, droughts will happen, heatwaves will happen, insects will swarm and flooding will increase (snow/ice melt doesn't matter about the elevation like you stupidly and oh so ignorantly suggested)

So basically you just don't know what you're talking about and trying to push old Russian propaganda that they'll use climate change to their benefit. Literally the lessening dependency on oil is leaving Russia in a bind right now and shit barely began.

Go be stupid somewhere else now.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 months ago

Cause you know you're wrong as fuck now go be stupid somewhere else

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So you believe in a literal sense all the maps drawn in the west that still call Crimea a part of Ukraine?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And you believe the actual verifiable lies told by Russia for the whole affair? Moron

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

please tell me what I believe

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Apparently a bunch of bullshit if you believe what you said lol

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And what did I say? That Russia holds Crimea?

That's objectively true. Are you suffering delusions?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So you believe in a literal sense all the maps drawn in the west that still call Crimea a part of Ukraine?

Sevastopol belongs to Ukraine.

Crimea belongs to Ukraine.

What the fuck are you talking about

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So yes you are completely delusional

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] ns1@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

lol just say whatever you want

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you = dumb

is an equal sign too difficult for you to understand?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the one acting like a schoolchild

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes you are though as schoolchildren are dumb and often need to be educated.

You are dumb and seem to need an education. So thus "schoolchild"

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes you are though as schoolchildren are dumb and often need to be educated.

Schoolchild as in you would fail a 6th grade english test

Not that your function is any better than your form. You can do nothing but call people stupid.

I can point at the real world and tell you that Russia holds Crimea. You can cry and delude yourself but you can't argue. You can only call names.

The irony is therefore that despite being the one calling the other stupid...

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So you believe in a literal sense all the maps drawn in the west that still call Crimea a part of Ukraine?

Sevastopol belongs to Ukraine.

Crimea belongs to Ukraine.

What the fuck are you talking about

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You have absolute baby brain. In what way does Crimea belong to Ukraine? They don't even border it anymore.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 months ago

hey you have something stupid on your face. oh its just your face

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Careful, a few weeks ago I was told anyone saying "warm water port" is Russian.