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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From your comment above, that's against your own interests.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

explain how? biden is a self proclaimed zionist. hes not stopping israel anytime soon. trump is a populist, failed businessman that wont stop israel either. you're response doesn't actually make sense. voting for either would actually be voting against my interests

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're not only voting for a person, you're voting for an administration.

The Biden administration has been much more forthcoming toward Gaza and Palestine than Trump and Republicans would ever be.

By not voting for the administration that would do the most, even if it's not enough, you're really aiding the administration that would do the least. That's how it works in a winner-take-all, electoral-college system.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The Biden administration has been much more forthcoming toward Gaza and Palestine than Trump and Republicans would ever be.

Oh yea, is voting against every UN ceasefire resolution your idea of forthcoming? Or maybe pulling aid to UNRWA? Or letting big tech use AI and other technology in the assault on Gaza?

Y'all are on this kick of, "if you don't vote my way, you're wrong. If you abstain from the vote, its your fault the country goes into chaos" As if there aren't political and business forces that have been around and created establishments that prevent real meaningful change because it would mean power transfer and reversal.

All the dems can do to muster up votes is try to convince people that they aren't evil republicans. Sorry I'm a little harder to get and its not my fault that they aren't good enough.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh yea, is voting against every UN ceasefire resolution your idea of forthcoming? Or maybe pulling aid to UNRWA? Or letting big tech use AI and other technology in the assault on Gaza?

It's like you didn't even read what I said. The Biden admin's response has maybe not been enough for you, but it's a ton more than Trump and the Republicans would ever do.

And if you're not voting for Biden, you're just helping Trump and you'll get even less of what you want. Yes, that sucks, but that's how it is in the electoral college.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you’re just helping Trump

i know its easy to think that way but not voting for biden doesn't mean i'm enabling trump.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but that's exactly what it means in a system with the electoral college.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

you are enabling biden and establishment democrats by voting for them. you are sending a message saying that you are ok with how badly they are failing. you can't hold them accountable after they get elected.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure, I want changes, too. But I don't think Biden has failed in any significant way compared to Trump's failures. And not voting would just aid a much more significant failure in Trump. Not going to enable that.