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Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide
(keeptrack.substack.com)
this post was submitted on 29 Feb 2024
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I solemnly swear if you take away any more of my daughters' rights I'll take a jack hammer to the I-10 every morning.
People generally hold that one has a right to have children (consider that things like government enforced sterilization of low income or minority groups are generally considered to be egregious breaches of the rights of the people affected.) IVF is used to assist people who wish to have children but who for medical reasons have been unable to do so, thus prohibiting it denies the people who need it in order to have kids the right to have them, thus it must be a right by proxy. Yes, things like housing and food should be rights too, but those are irrelevant to this discussion, given that it is possible for more than one thing to be an issue at a time.
Dude is on @monero.town. no way this is good faith discussion.
What's monero.town? I've not seen it before
Monero is a cryptocurrency. So its probably a libertarian tech bro hive.
Fun fact: on some lemmy apps you can press-and-hold the username to never see them again.
All rights require assistance to a lesser or greater extent to have any practical consequence. For example, if I were to make it illegal to share any information about where polling places are and then move them somewhere one would be unlikely to find by chance, it is technically still possible to vote if you manage to find the place to do it, but if I were to then argue that what I was doing wasn't violating your right to vote because you aren't entitled to assistance in exercising that right, you'd rightly call bullshit on that argument.
Further, "rights" do not exclusively refer to things spelled out as part of the constitution like the right to vote. There isn't any explicit right to walk in the constitution that I can think of, but were I to make canes and crutches illegal, it'd absolutely be fair to say that i was taking away disabled people's right to walk.
Restricting reproductive access falls into the "eugenics" umbrella. Of almost any eugenics scheme that's ever been proposed or implemented a core feature has been preventing people who want to have kids from having kids
This is an argument against restricting rights. The GOP appears to be shifting strategy to preventing access to IVF, probably as a new front of the ongoing culture war they use as a smoke screen for everything else they do. Taking away rights that have no good reason to be taken away is absolutely worth fighting for.