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[–] glans@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to make so many comments on this but it is so fucking wild. Please tell me you believe it.

obesity causes ... chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, lung cancer, type 2 and 1 diabetes mellitus

I went to look what the professionals in the field believe. I checked American Thoracic Society: Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD). I opened several of the most relevant looking articles and ctrl-f for "bmi" and "obes". The only relevant result I found was:

Undiagnosed Obstructive Lung Disease in the United States. Associated Factors and Long-term Mortality | Annals of the American Thoracic Society:

No associations were found between undiagnosed disease and obesity, access to health care, or education level in either survey.

And specifically I will mention that there were not results in An Official American Thoracic Society Public Policy Statement: Novel Risk Factors and the Global Burden of Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease. But you know what does cause COPD? Cigarettes and other airborne exposures.

But here you are to tell me that obesity causes COPD. Tell me you know what COPD is and that you believe that.

[–] puff@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Congratulations, you picked on the one outcome that the authors of the genetics article (if you had even read it, you would have seen) said "Whereas most obesity-disease associations were largely similar, adjusting for smoking status resulted in diminished magnitudes of effect for COPD and lung cancer, suggesting potential mediation." In other words, the COPD association was potentially mediated by smoking but the other associations "were largely similar". This supports the conclusion that obesity is causally associated with a range of diseases even if COPD isn't one of them. Extremely lazy argumentation on your part, and still denying the science.