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Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

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Why do so many people, including leftists, dont openly express their support for Hamas and even call them terrorists? I dont get it. (lemmygrad.ml)
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Many leftists are extremely idealist and get swayed by Western opinion a lot. They dont support Hamas because Hamas are not the perfect MLs freedom fighters. This is childish and just gives ammunition to the liberals to discredit Hamas’ stance. This criticism of Hamas goes against the global decolonization cause. Every time a decolonial group fights against their oppressor, they are criticized even by leftists. Is this what Lenin referred to as left-com?

It sucks that people who one thought were comrades end up doing this. Like are we even on the same team or are you just a closeted liberal? It is crazy, unscientific and unmaterialistic to not consider Palestinian material conditions, and to not consider who they made their champions for this cause, but instead to apply your idealism to the situation.

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[–] su25@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

what has hamas done that israel hasn't done but in larger quantities? by most definitions, most western governments including israel can be counted as terrorist organizations. israel, the us, etc. have frequently committed unlawful (numerous violations of international law) acts of violence towards civilians for political/economic motivations. but this label is only applied to a national liberation movement. do you ever wonder why this is?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Terrorist organizations are those without standing on the global stage, without independent financial or structural elements, without "normal" elections (corrupt or not), essentially the non-governmental organizations.

Yes, Israel is acting very terroristically, but they have the labels and standing to be called a "state"

If Hamas wins their every hope and dream, guess what they'll become?