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Trump has been charged by the Department of Justice with the following four counts:

  • A conspiracy to defraud the United States “by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to obstruct the nation’s process of collecting, counting, and certifying the results of the presidential election,” according to the special counsel’s office.

  • A conspiracy to impede the Jan. 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified.

  • A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have that vote counted.

  • Obstruction of, and attempt to obstruct and impede, the certification of the electoral vote.


In criminally charging former president Donald Trump for his efforts to reverse his 2020 election loss, federal prosecutors allege that Trump enlisted six co-conspirators to “assist him in his criminal efforts to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election and retain power.”

  1. Rudy Giuliani

  2. John Eastman

  3. Sidney Powell

  4. Jeffrey Clark

  5. Kenneth Chesebro

  6. Unknown political consultant


Updated 8/3/2023 by Jordan Lund

Washington, D.C. - 4 felonies, January 6th Election Interference

Investigation

Indictment

Arrest <- You Are Here

(Lawyers have until 8/10 to submit requested trial dates, which will be announced on 8/28)

Trial

Conviction

Sentencing

Georgia - Election Interference

Investigation <- You Are Here

2 new grand juries were impaneled on 7/11/2023.

Indictment - July 11th to September 1st.

(Grand Jury work expected July 31 to Aug. 18)

Arrest

Trial

Conviction

Sentencing

New York State - 34 felonies, Stormy Daniels Payoff

Investigation

Indictment

Arrest <- You Are Here

Trial - March 25th, 2024

Conviction

Sentencing

Florida - 40 felonies, Federal documents charges

Investigation

Indictment

The original indictment was for 37 felonies.

3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.

Arrest <- You Are Here

Trial - May 20, 2024

Conviction

Sentencing


Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation, where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again, resulting in a demand for $10 million, is not listed as it’s a civil case and not a criminal one.


Sources:


Trumps 3rd Indictment - Conspiring to Defraud the United States - 1 August 2023

NBC News: Grand jury charges Trump in 2020 election probe: Highlights

Vox: Trump was just indicted for trying to steal the 2020 election

CNN: August 1, 2023 Trump indicted in special counsel's 2020 election interference probe

Washington Post: Here are the Trump co-conspirators described in the DOJ indictment

Reason: Trump Indicted for Attempting To Overturn 2020 Presidential Election

FiveThirtyEight: All Of Trump's Indictments Could Seriously Bog Down His Campaign


Trump's Arraignment - 3 August 2023

AP: Trump is due to face a judge in DC over charges he tried to overturn the 2020 presidential election

C-SPAN: The Not Above the Law Coalition, a group of organizations in support of accountability for those who opposed certifying the 2020 election results, holds a press conference ahead of the arraignment of former President Donald Trump.

C-SPAN: Coverage of the arraignment of former President Trump, stemming from Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into election interference. The former president is facing four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States.

CBS News: Trump pleads not guilty to federal charges in special counsel probe

Chicago Tribune: Trump pleads not guilty to federal charges that he tried to overturn the 2020 election

The Independent: Trump appears to stumble over his name and age at arraignment


Official Documentation

Read the indictment by @mateomaui@reddthat.com

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[–] faceula@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Is there a chance he would serve any jail time at all, from any of these cases?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, there is a chance. These are crimes with associated sentences expected should he, and his co-conspirators, be convicted. There are of course, larger political implications that may see special treatment for this man that thinks he's above the law AND who had spent his entire life collecting blackmail on others in an attempt to keep himself out of jail (see David pecker and enquirer relationship).

Ultimately, he's long overdue for the consequences of his actions. America says it doesn't have monarchy, this is the chance to prove that with action. trump's crimes are in broad daylight and they are literally televised. There's no denying he's guilty of young an honest person examining the objective facts. The question will be of he's done enough to poison the well yet to find an unwarranted way out of this.

[–] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rule of law is completely dead in this shithole country if he doesn't get, at minimum, thrown in prison.

[–] WarmRegards@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the rich and powerful have never been held to the same standards as the rest of the populace. Not specific to this shithole country, but it's nothing new. Don't get hung up on the "rule of law" being dead; it's always been applied differently to different groups.

[–] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but Trump is kinda trash money not big money

[–] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I doubt he even has any PJs.

[–] catshit_dogfart@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Just speculation here but I'd say at the very most it'll be house arrest. People like this don't go to jail, they just don't. Not even "club fed" as they call it.

[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he is convicted, he will spend the rest of his life in jail unless a Republican is elected President in 2024 or 2028.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The moment there's a Republican president, he'll be pardoned. Especially if that Republican president campaigns on not doing that, they'll totally do it once in office.

[–] SergeantScar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm not going to hold my breath hoping for prison... I won't hold my breath for conviction either. All it takes is 1 MAGA crazy sneaking into a jury to let him off.

If he is convicted I'm sure he will get some form of home detention. It will turn into a form of convicted in writing only.

I'm a "glass is empty" type person.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Idi Amin never went to prison for any of the stuff he'd done, things like that just don't happen to world leaders, former world leaders, or billionaires (apart from maybe Saddam Hussein). It'll most likely be house arrest, though I'd love to be proven wrong and he gets to wear a jumpsuit as orange as his tan.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Insofar as any rich person would have a chance, yes. Some of these charges carry theoretical penalties up to and including execution.

[–] Cubes@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is absolutely not true... The death penalty is not on the table for any of the charges against Trump. The only charges in the US that carry the possibility of the death penalty are: murder, treason, genocide, or kidnapping of certain politicians. He has NOT be charged with anything near that.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tbf sedition is "near treason" imo but yes you are correct, I was mistaken

[–] Cubes@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What? He hasn't been charged with sedition either.

[–] efrique@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Not a certainty, even with everything, but sure -- an increasingly solid chance of it.