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[–] EndOfLine@lemm.ee 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Could she not have opened the door or rolled down the window? The article made sure we knew that she went to Harvard and described the event she was attending, but no mention of why she was unable to exit the vehicle. Did she not know how to swim? Was their some obstruction? Did something malfunction? Was she so used to having other people do things for her that it just never occurred to her to do anything for herself?

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's pretty much impossible to open a car door underwater. You'd need superhuman strength.

As to why the windows didn't roll down, I can only speculate.

[–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Depends. You have to wait for the pressure to equalize to open the door. So once the car is filled up fully will you be able to open it. The problem is if you drove a car into a body of water, you might be panicking and not thinking through your actions

[–] bluemite@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Easy to say when you know this and aren't in a sinking car.

[–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That is literally the last sentence of my point.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Easy to say when you've already said it once in a comment above this one

Easy to say that when it's been 6 hours under water in your CAR

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not just that, the car starts turning upside down and it's completely dark with no air.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would the car turn upside down? All of the weight is at the bottom, and the buoyant part of the car that is filled with air is at the top.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My reference is a video on Mythbusters so it should apply to most ICE cars. One thing to note is that even if you're in an EV and the weight is at the bottom, the battery, motors are not perfectly 50/50 front/back or even 50/50 left and right. Also, its not like the car was gently entered the water. Any pitch or roll while entering the water will dramatically alter your car's position. Another factor is the water current.

Let's all agree that we all need a window breaking device inside our cars.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's all agree that we all need a window breaking device inside our cars.

Agreed! I bought a 3 pack for like $10 on Amazon and put one in my car, my wife's car, and my son's car. Now whether any of us will remember where that thing is, and remember to use it in an emergency, without any training, is an entirely different topic.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

HAHAHA, I just bought it too. I bought one that has a flashlight built into it.

I remember that Adam Savage words when he simulated a car going into the water and how he described it as the worst thing that has ever happened to him. He said he was blind because his eyes stung when he opened his eyes underwater because the water was super dirty from how dirty the interior of the car was. Even when he could open them up, it was very dark. So that's why I'm thinking a flashlight would be a good idea too.

I bought this one. Its in Taiwan, but I'm sure you can find this somewhere on amazon. https://shopee.tw/%E5%80%8D%E6%80%9D%E6%B1%BD%E8%BB%8A%E5%AE%89%E5%85%A8%E9%8C%98%E8%BF%B7%E4%BD%A0%E5%AE%89%E5%85%A8%E9%8C%98-Pro-650mAh-%E7%B7%8A%E6%80%A5%E7%8E%BB%E7%92%83%E7%A0%B4%E7%A2%8E%E5%99%A8%E7%AA%97%E6%88%B6%E5%AE%89%E5%85%A8%E5%B8%B6%E5%88%87%E5%89%B2%E5%99%A8%E6%95%91%E7%94%9F%E9%80%83%E7%94%9F%E9%8C%98%E5%88%80%E7%89%87%E5%B7%A5%E5%85%B7-i.1168298290.23563972335?xptdk=b478e6e6-3f53-40ac-95d5-1faf867227bd

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ideally you want to break the window before the water has filled the cabin. The more time you have to get out, the more likely you are to survive. Going into deep water in the middle of winter is probably a death sentence, even if you get out, unless you're close to somewhere you can warm up.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Ideally you roll down the window as soon as you can before the car's electrics shut down. Then you move to break the window. Then you wait until the car is depressurized to open the door.

If you go into the water and upside down and hanging from your seatbelt, this might be extra difficult.

Maybe someone can invent a product that detects if your car has been submerged and your door unlocks and windows automatically open instantly using waterproof backup batteries. Someone would become a thousandaire.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's why us OGs learned how to crack auto glass with a spark plug stashed in the glove compartment. Just, don't tell any billionaires. 🤓

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago

The windows here are designed to be indestructible though. I have no idea if they would actually withstand that, but they are not designed to break like regular car windows.

I think that all cars should be required to have an easily accessible and identifiable emergency escape tool though. One that can cut your seat belt and break the glass. I don't know why that hasn't been mandated, though we should make an exception if your networth is high enough.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can get a seat belt cutter with a ceramic tip for pretty cheap too

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Everyone should have one of these in their car, and keep it in an easily accessible place. They can save your life in an emergency, and you can buy one for a few bucks. Bonus points that they double as a pretty decent weapon if you're ever the victim of road rage.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

People can be dumb, like really dumb. Now imagine being rich enough that you never have to learn anything and you think getting a Tesla is a good idea.