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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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This was such a chore to read, it's basically quirk-washing TREACLES. This is like a major publication deciding to take an uncritical look at scientology focusing on the positive vibes and the camaraderie, while stark in the middle of operation snow white, which in fact I bet happened a lot at the time.
Fuck off.
The weirdness is eugenics and the repugnant conclusion, and abusing bayes rule to sidestep context and take epistimological shortcuts to cuckoo conclusions while fortifying a bubble of accepted truths that are strangely amenable to allowing rich people to do whatever the hell they want.
Writing a 7-8000 word insider expose on TREACLES without mentioning eugenics even once throughout should be all but impossible, yet here we are.
Inside the Strange World of the Uwu Smol Beans: An Exposé of a Quirky Community with No Racists Whatsoever
I can’t wait to be quirk-washed, I’m ready to hang up my pick-me hat and let the new yorker do the work for me
speaking of, saw this this morning: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/2/13/24070864/samotsvety-forecasting-superforecasters-tetlock
2 within a handful of days trying to reputation-wash after they got their filthy little selves exposed last year as the shitgremlins they are. hopefully it's just a coincidence in timing, but guess we'll have to see
I'm probably not saying anything you didn't already know, but Vox's "Future Perfect" section, of which this article is a part, was explicitly founded as a booster for effective altruism. They've also memory-holed the fact that it was funded in large part by FTX. Anything by one of its regular writers (particularly Dylan Matthews or Kelsey Piper) should be mentally filed into the rationalist propaganda folder. I mean, this article throws in an off-hand remark by Scott Alexander as if it's just taken for granted that he's some kind of visionary genius.
yep aware. didn't care too much about the article itself, was more observing the coincidence in timing. but you have a point there with the names, I really should make that a standing mental ban
Had to stop reading that. My eyes were rolling too much.
uwu smol-bean number starers, lovable little group of misfits from checks notes fucking RAND
What happened to Samotsvety last year? I missed that .
I meant more the general state of the things in the TREACLES umbrella catching unfavourable public attention over the last while
you gotta be white cis and loathsome or they won't do it
God I always forget about the repugnant conclusion. It's baffling that it's being taken as anything but a fatal indictment of utilitarianism.