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So the dems are really just gonna let Trump win (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by lorty@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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We all know there's no difference between them (specially if you live outside the US), but I'm actually impressed how little the Biden campaign is doing. All they really got is "Trump bad", some bs about inflation being under control (if you exclude rent and food) and "protecting LGBT rights" (which I might have missed but Biden did literally nothing about?).

They should want to win to have their party implement the oligarchic plans and get that sweet sweet lobbying money right? Or are the elites actually preferring Trump right now?

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I could be wrong because I'm in the US, but it's probably better for people outside the US if Trump wins.

[–] Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 7 months ago

I am naive enough to think Trump's US first views may actually destabilize NATO and allow for more world peace.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 7 months ago

It's just impossible to know which is going to be least worst. Just as it's impossible to counterfactually know if Trump had won, where we'd be now. There's no justification to support either. Americans should not participate in the charade.

[–] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 7 months ago

The only indicator for this is the idea that he might get the US out of Nato, but this seems like a pipe dream.

[–] h4lf8yte@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The governments of many EU countries are worried about him which hopefully leads to less US influence in EU politics.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

I fear that might be too optimistic. It's a double win for libs. Trump's reactionary rhetoric and policies further the interests of the global capitalist class much more bluntly and quickly than the usual liberal channels, but then when it's done they can blame every evil act on him and use it as a rallying cry for more supporters. That's how it is in the US, and I suspect the US sets the standards for the EU more than even its critics would like to admit.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 7 months ago

Hard to say for sure. Trump is more incompetent but he also bolsters specific far-right movements around the world.

[–] citsuah@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 7 months ago

It looks like Trump might pull out of the planned AUKUS pact which as an Australian is something I'm hopeful for. I would love to see the embarrassment of my government if that happens.

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 7 months ago

I don't know, one thing is that he is incompetent to indesisive, to do much damage in the long term, in international matters. But he tried to create armed conflicts in his government, against China, Venezuela, Iran and Syria.