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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Another unfortunate thing is that surely rivals and enemies of the US noticed how unprepared we were for an event like that, and while as various pundits and news organizations pointed out, our institutions did prevail and were strengthened, they sure weren't rock solid. And we're still having to deal with this orange-painted douchebag, who is not only not in prison, but almost as popular as before and running for president. But anyway, it's a concern that someone like Russia or China could sponsor and a stage a coup by manipulating the crew of violent mouth breathers into it. I mean, I'd be surprised if foreign influence wasn't involved in the last one.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We know that it was.

Or did you think that the Saudi royal family was just paying kushner 2 billion for an excellent blowjob?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assumed that they bought state secrets from Orange Julius. I’m not sure they have a particular interest in destabilizing the US as much as say, that one guy who is basically 2 inches from war with NATO.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

the Saudis will do what's best for the Saudis. Including destabilizing the US if it means they can continue being assholes on the world stage.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Why not? Destabilize the US, let them invade Iran under false pretense, like Russia did in Ukraine, rely on Saudis and maybe Israel as "strategic partners to stabilize the region", so they can control the middle east and establish their theocracies. Meanwhile the weakened US relies on more ressources and funding from the Saudis so they make big money and gain influence in the US economy.

The capitalist elites are happy to sell out America. Americans are easy to get into another invasion with lots of war crimes, heck Hillary Clinton was eager to attack Iran sooner than later.

Keep in mind that the 9/11 attackers were mostly Saudis and ISIS was largely funded from there. If they think it'll benefit them, they'll burn the US to the ground.

[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people who stormed the capital were able to do so because intelligence was WILLFULLY ignored. Trump and his appointees downplayed the risk of violence and denied reinforcing the capital.

Without those loyal to Trump ignoring refusing to increase security for the capital, the storming of Congress would not have been successful.

[–] grue@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The absence of the vast majority of the Capitol Police (in stark contrast to, for example, the Black Lives Matter protests the summer before) was part of the coup attempt.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Don't rule Saudi Arabia out either there.

[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say anything was strengthened.

[–] Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Im willing to bet that this involved assistance from the Russians.