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Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) said policy differences toward Israel between her and President Biden won’t stop her from supporting him in the November general election.

“Of course,” Omar said Tuesday, when asked by CNN’s Abby Phillip on “NewsNight” whether she would vote for Biden if the election were held that day, in a clip highlighted by Mediaite. “Democracy is on the line, we are facing down fascism.”

“And I personally know what my life felt like having Trump as the president of this country, and I know what it felt like for my constituents, and for people around this country and around the world,” Omar continued. “We have to do everything that we can to make sure that does not happen to our country again.”

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[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

>you very well know that you can’t convince educated leftists to split their vote to give it to Trump

leftists certainly wouldn't give their vote to trump

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if they were leftists, they vote left on downballot and vote for realistic options that is closest to left on general. That means, third parties are out unless ranked choice is a thing.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

>That means, third parties are out unless ranked choice is a thing.

why would a leftist vote for a conservative politician? they wouldn't

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In context of Biden, it's to have him on the white house to get some benefits possible, and he is the most realistic option because of Duverger's Law. Which goes back to my point of there is no good answer as to when was the last time third party has made a huge dent electorally.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if you're a leftist, and you are voting for biden, don't pretend it's because he's a leftist or will help leftists. he's not and he won't.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Let's see. Student debt cleared to some degree. Pay raise for low wage workers. Yes, there were some.

Also, love that you ignored the issue of Duverger's Law.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

>you ignored the issue of Duverger’s Law.

just as i would have if you'd raised the book of revelation. lots of people believe it predicts the future, but it doesn't.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One is observed, and the other is guess work. Nice try, anyway.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

both have equal predictive power

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

By what evidence do you have for that? We can look at vote records and note that Duverger's Law matches electoral records, and it is based on real world observation of elections. The other one has zero predictive power because it's not based on anything other than guess work.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

>We can look at vote records and note that Duverger’s Law matches electoral records, and it is based on real world observation of elections

so? so tell me what the split is going to be in november using duverger's law. make a prediction using it.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

At this point in time, 2.5%(+/-).5% . Easy to figure out when it's only 2 parties since 1968 and looking up election results.