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It's basically the philosophy that it is wrong to have children. But what is the material cause to this belief, along with other beliefs that antinatalists have? (including efilism, basically the philosophy that all life should end)

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[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 months ago

Its the politics of those who see the issues in society as being caused by the working class breeding too much.

Its a petite-bougie mindset usually found in the brains of liberal nepo babies with a surplus who get spooked by poverty.

[-] mulcahey@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's not really accurate. What you're describing is the movement against "overpopulation." That movement often uses concerns about resource shortages as a backdoor into eugenics and upholding the current liberal order.

Antinatalists aren't worried about those concerns, primarily. Their argument is that because all life experiences suffering, creating life is inherently cruel and immoral. IMHO that argument has some overlap with Marxism in that it's an egalitarian concern for all people in society.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Theoretically yes, and i did read such antinatalists, but many of them when questioned further inevitably express neomalthusian sentiments. As in, it's not exclusive and actually very close to one another and the overlap is high.

[-] mulcahey@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, there are some folks who overlap, but it's not inevitable. There are principled antinatalists who don't want anything to do with the Malthusians. David Benatar is a good example. His question is, "is it moral to create a being that can & will suffer?" That's a question that has nothing to do with the size of the population/resources.

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