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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/christianity@hexbear.net

specter-global Communism is so powerful that even God fears it

The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. - Genesis 11:6

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[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I love that interpretation of the story of Adam and Eve I've encountered in a few places that sees God as ultimately afraid of what happens. He warns them that if they eat the apple from the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they will 'surely die.'" It isn't necessarily an order that is going to be disobeyed.

In this read, for God, good and evil are arbitrary things without consequence. He does not experience the consequences of these things. When Adam and Eve eat the apple, they now understand good and evil in ways that are real--they suffer, they see and feel what things are good and evil and come to know these ideas themselves. And god is scared, he's freaked out by these little non-omniscient things understanding something he doesn't, so he forces them out because they threaten his eden.

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

There’s a more positive interpretation of this that God actually understands that it’s not good that they don’t understand what good and evil is, and made humanity in their own image specifically to figure it out and surpass them. I like it a lot because it implies that being Christian requires a worldly, interpretative stance on morality and the world around you, instead of just following the literal rules of the Israeli people or assuming everything in the Bible is a direct moral lesson from God.

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Tbh I read a lot of this stuff the way I read other mythology, which is to assume the writers may have understood irony and subtext the same way a modern writer might. It's a position which may not always be appropriate for the material but which almost always provides me with good questions to bring into interpretation.

The Mayan popol vuh has a more overt presentation of what you describe btw, a story in which the creation of mankind is done by two primary deities so that they will simply have some new people to talk to. Their first attempt makes the men of stone, who are solid but clumsy, the second the men of wood, who are flexible but eventually snap, and finally the men of maize (us) who are soft but solid. I like how underneath it all, the two gods' great efforts are to make people who are good talkers, who are solid like stone, but flexible like wood, and the trick was to make us soft and sensitive. It's nice imo

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In the NT, god only gives one real commandment to Adam before the Fall, and that's to name shit. God is literally bringing stuff to Adam and saying "What do you call this?" like an excited parent and a child who'd just started talking. And it's not entirely clear which one is which.

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This goes so hard it's unreal

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean i guess it’s not really my idea but Thank you!!!

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