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[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

US: Let's send weapons to our allies that are at war! Iran: We'll do the same! US: shocked Pikachu face

[–] Valmond@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago (12 children)

With the litte difference that russia is a brutal dictatorship who invaded a sovereign country and Iran is a brutal dictatorship too.

But I guess it's the same anyway, right?

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago

USA doesn't give a fuck about other countries sovereignty when it goes murdering across the globe

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

invaded a sovereign country

Thank god my wholesome democracy would never do that over and over again for my entire life, otherwise I might have to think about who they tell me the bad guys are.

Also Ukraine is not a sovereign country. We stole their sovereignty ten years ago when we replaced their government with nazis.

[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did you know that the United States Army trained midwifery to locals in Iraq?

Google "Fallujah Babies" for more details!

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

what a terrible day to have google goggles

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 38 points 7 months ago
[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 35 points 7 months ago

The US is constantly and historically the ones propping up dictators all over the world. AND we have done it while people of those nations have either legitimately voted for the opposite, and/or were fighting for their freedom from colonial powers/dictators. We actively fund and create false narratives inside nations that we don't like to start color revolutions. We force other nations into backing brutal sanctions if they don't want us to go after them and to be allowed to trade with us. Our military is literally installed all over the globe, but we claim nations like China are somehow being "aggressive" for even patrolling their own areas. We create and groom evil and gaslight the world that we are somehow just allowed to police the globe. Fuck yourself.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 33 points 7 months ago

So genocide is okay if committed by a democracy?

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

Russia joined a civil war in progress on the morally correct side

which the CIA said was going to happen if NATO kept expanding, back in 2008

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

Between Russia, Iran, and Ukraine, only two still have elections, and yet the one without is the one that isn't a dictatorship?

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 7 months ago

The USA is a brutal dictatorship who invaded a sovereign country. What's the difference exactly? The USA has invaded someone more recently than Russia has, and they do it a lot more often. They're also more dictatorial and more brutal. The fact that the USA is mad at Iran for supporting their enemy is completely understandable. They're not being hypocrites, it's just mafia tactics and they're not ashamed of it. What's not understandable is you or anyone saying USA sending weapons to Ukraine and Iran sending weapons to Russia are somehow not equivalent.

To be clear, I am not at all justifying or forgiving the use of sanctions, it's a barbaric form of warfare that explicitly targets non-combatants, the USA should be ashamed and their leadership jailed.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All liberal "democracies" are brutal capitalist dictatorships.

At least Iran and Russia's interests are aligned with most of the world against imperial core countries.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wtf did I just read? Have you ever been to Russia or any of the post-soviet block republic? Or are you just fantasizing from other side of the world?

[–] kookaburra@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

I'm at Russia right now, I've been to Ukraine more than dozen times including twice to Crimea (Ukrainian at time of visit) and numerous times to Donbass (as Donetsk is literally hometown of my father). What's next? Have you ever been to one of the listed places yourself or are you just fantasizing from other side of the world?

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which part of my comment do you disagree with?

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That second paragraph. It's just so mind boggling for me.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Are their foreign interests not aligned with Global South countries against imperial core ones?

Russia has consistently supported the sovereignty of Global South countries like Syria and Venezuela against the US, host Palestinian meetings, and are a core part of BRICS. While Iran supports and funds Yemen, Palestine etc. There's a reason sentiment like this is common in third world countries.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

At least Iran and Russia's interests are aligned with most of the world against imperial core countries.

This. I count myself like one of the most of the world part and I definitely DO NOT aligh with any interests Russia had in past 100 years.

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (11 children)

If you were to divide the world into two camps, one with 1 milliard people and another with 7 milliard, and they wanted opposite things, would the 7 milliard group not represent most of the world? Now, I don't want you to dox yourself, but I ask rhetorically which camp the country you're from falls in. Here's a map in case you're genuinely unsure. !alwaysthesamemap@lemmygrad.ml

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The USSR directly funded and supported emancipatory movements against the US all over the world, like Vietnam, Cuba, Korea, Bangladesh, Palestinian resistance organizations like the PFLP, etc; even directly supplied wars against "israel" for that last one. Afganistan is about the only one where the US and USSR funding opposite sides turned it into a warzone instead.

Russia's foreign interests, even after the USSR's overthrow, have remained broadly aligned with Global South countries as I explained in my previous comment.

I count myself like one of the most of the world part

I do too, and hence critically support Russia and Iran's role in geopolitics.