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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The ~~cake~~ BigBang is a lie.
original source :
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ad1ddd

see also :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law
Hubble tension
In the 21st century, multiple methods have been used to determine the Hubble constant. "Late universe" measurements using calibrated distance ladder techniques have converged on a value of approximately 73 (km/s)/Mpc. Since 2000, "early universe" techniques based on measurements of the cosmic microwave background have become available, and these agree on a value near 67.7 (km/s)/Mpc. (...)
(...) The most exciting possibility is new physics beyond the currently accepted cosmological model of the universe, (...)

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Can someone give me the spark notes I started reading but I'll never get through that or probably even understand all of it

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As I understand it, there are two measures of cosmic distance/expansion rate in which we are pretty confident.

One is using supernovas as a measure. Since one kind of supernova has very particular characteristics, it is easy to calculate the distance. It is like knowing that everyone has the same kind of candle, if you see a bunch of lights around you, you could make certain assumptions about how far they are from you by how bright they are. Also, with more precise measurements, we can use the doppler effect to know how fast they are moving. We have observed the area around or Galaxy and have come up with a very precise measurement for how fast the universe is expanding.

The other measurement is by looking at the cosmic wave background. This is the "first" thing we are able to see after the big bang. I don't really understand the details of this one, but scientists have also been able to calculate the expansion rate of the universe very accurately with this radiation.

As we have done more experiments to measure these two numbers, instead of converging on the same number, the results are actually diverging. Recent results have even made it so the error bars no longer overlap.

So, we have some big questions -

  1. Are our measurements wrong? There are no strong candidates for alternative understandings of how we measure things, so we don't really know how.
  2. Are the expansion rates at the beginning of the universe and current times different? Maybe, but again, we don't have any theories for why.
  3. Does the Universe expand at different rates in different places? Maybe, but again, we don't have any strong candidates that we can test.

All of this is called the Hubble Tension. It is probably one of the biggest questions in cosmology currently.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Thanks this is both an uncomfortable and exciting thing to read.

[–] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Basically,

Everything you know is wrong.

Black is white, up is down, and short is long

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

And everything you thought was just so important doesn't matter. Everything you know is wrong. Just forget the words and sing along. All you need to understand is, everything you know is wrong.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 1 points 8 months ago

I wish I had more upvotes for the random Yankovic!

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

It's simple, imagine you've got two smart friends that both have an opinion about a TV show you didn't watch - you can't tell who is right but the fact they disagree suggests they might be wrong when they say you can't have flying cars and time travel.