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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 62 points 8 months ago (189 children)

Funny, but what does the skin color have to do with the situation?

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 67 points 8 months ago (49 children)

When a given demographic is a dominant presence in a given area (not necessarily work, it can be anything), there is a tendency for they demographic to start making assumptions about other demographics.

In most places, men are the dominant presence, and in most of the "western" world, they will also be white.

In this case, the individual who a white male was doing what's called colloquially, "mansplaining". He was correcting a woman when not only was the woman right, but was the very source he was using to correct her.

This is a consistent and very unpleasant fact of the world that white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.

In this specific case, I suspect that the person making that post was pointing to the prejudice and stupidity of the person indirectly insulting her being a systemic issue arising from both gender and sexual entrenchment along with the privilege that allows the dominance of the white male demographic despite their being no quantifiable factor for that group to be dominant other than that privilege.

She, in other words, was pointing out a systemic issue by using an anecdote. Which can be a bit difficult to accept as evidence. Or would be if there wasn't a good century or so of giant piles of anecdotes from real people pointing to that systemic issue not only existing, but being something that holds everyone back.

Truth? Yes, women and people of color are going to assume they're right and whoever they're talking to is wrong just like any humans will. But white dudes have been pulling that crap for multiple generations, and anyone that isn't both white and male get sick of the bad behavior.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When a given demographic is a dominant presence in a given area (not necessarily work, it can be anything), there is a tendency for they demographic to start making assumptions about other demographics.

Isn't she the one making assumptions, though? Specifically, the "prejudice and stupidity of the person indirectly insulting her" part? I mean, is that really the only possible explanation?

[–] OftenWrong@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What other reason would you suggest as to why he would assume that he knows more than her or that she couldn't be the person that he's referring to? Clearly he didn't even know her name yet so what did he have to go by to draw those conclusions? It obviously wasn't her lack of knowledge on the subject that they were discussing now was it?

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Clearly he knew her name, though. He just didn't know the woman he was speaking to was the woman whose work he was recommending.

[–] OftenWrong@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And he made that assumption based on? Because, again, we know for a fact she didn't sound ignorant on the topic.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago

How should I know? Or you, for that matter?

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