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The videos, which were published by IS’s news agency Amaq, showed the gunmen filming themselves as they hunted concertgoers through the lobby of the Crocus City Hall and fired at them from pointblank range, killing scores of people. At one point, one of the gunmen tells another to “kill them and have no mercy”.

Sorry, Vlad. Can't pin it on Ukraine anymore.

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[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It is an interesting strategy that IS deployed, to delay the release of their videos.

This article then goes on to describe other videos (released from the Russian side, I presume?) that are horribly abhorrent:

Some of the videos of the interrogations suggest that the men were tortured by Russian security services. One of the clips, circulated by Russian bloggers, appears to show members of the security forces cutting off the ear of a man who is later interrogated over the attack and then stuffing it into his mouth. Another appears to show security forces beating a suspect with their rifle butts and kicking him as he lies in the snow.

Russian independent media noted that the officer who apparently cut off the ear of the suspect was wearing patches that indicated his support for neo-Nazi groups and appeared to have contact with the far-right Rusich paramilitary group, which is active in Ukraine. The patches included a black sun and a symbol resembling the Totenkopf – or death’s head – worn by several Nazi divisions.

Given his supposed opposition to Nazism, Putin only had to look for select members of his own population, within his own borders, to find and route out Nazis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group

EDIT - an afterthought: And President Drink Bleach and his MAGAs support Putin.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Nazism is only bad when it's a small group in Ukraine with essentially no power. And, of course, Nazis in a country run by a Jewish president allows him to play the antisemitic side too.

[–] tal 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One of the clips, circulated by Russian bloggers, appears to show members of the security forces cutting off the ear of a man who is later interrogated over the attack and then stuffing it into his mouth.

I have serious doubts that there's actual research backing up the idea that this is actually an effective way to get information out of someone.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's research that indicates it doesn't work at all. They'll just say whatever is needed to make it stop.

[–] tal 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

"Yes! I'm actually Ukrainian! Zelenskyy and I planned it over lunch!"

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

An MI-6 agent, a CIA agent, and a KGB agent are all talking, claiming to be the best at finding a target when they need to. So they come up with a competition, where they release a rabbit into a forest and have to track and retrieve it.

The MI-6 agent goes on first, and after a week comes back, accepting failure.

The CIA agent goes next, and after 3 days comes out and declares there is no rabbit, or it escaped into another country.

The Russian agent goes last, and after 6 hours calls the others back to inform that he succeeded.

When the other two agents arrive, they find a bear chained to a chair, badly beaten and bloody, wearing a set of bunny ears and saying "I am a rabbit. I have always been a rabbit. My parents were members of a rabbit group..."

A torture victim would admit to smoking weed with Mohammed, and punching orphans with Hitler.