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Threads Has Lost More Than 80% of Its Daily Active Users::Two separate data analysis firms say the Twitter killer from Instagram has unraveled even as Meta has rushed to add highly requested features.

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[–] emptyother@programming.dev 104 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Anyone think Fediverse active userbase is going to fall as much too, only slower? That most people will return to their comfy commercial social networks now that the reddit and twitter demonstrations is in the past?

I'm hoping not. I like it this active. I don't want to go back to ads and "personalised" feeds and yearly new useless features.

[–] Chruesimuesi@feddit.ch 73 points 1 year ago

I don't think so. If you look at Mastodon it could actually keep most of its users and still seems to be growing.

Of course I don't know what the future holds for us.

[–] Kaavi@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the no third party apps on Reddit is the best thing ever for fediverse - even if I wanted to return, I can't :)

[–] dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, there's only so much- "he shot himself three times in the back of the head and fell out of a window" and "I also choose this guy's dead wife" and "if you owe the bank $1000 it's your problem and if you owe the bank $1m it's their problem" and "banana for scale" and "take my poor man's gold" ...ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

I've tried going back. I loved Reddit. But it's a recycling dump at this stage.

[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also "fuck around and find out" and its variations

[–] Illegal_Prime@dmv.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Adding on “it’s not a bug, it’s a feature”.

[–] Kikkertje@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Illegal_Prime@dmv.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I feel like the upvote button is ignored by these people, it may be more affected. Personally I was never particularly bothered by it, but it doesn’t really warrant a comment.

I like constructive discussion, please feel free to add your own thoughts, but don’t say you agree and leave us hanging.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know, I’m going to miss “banana for scale”. That one never got old (for me).

If Lemmy communities have such traditions, I’m looking forward to finding out

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, dont hold your shit in for 3 days..

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hey. I know that one!

[–] argo_yamato@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep without third party apps reddit is worthless to me. A lot of my time spent there was on mobile or a tablet using RIF.

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use reddit for some niche subs that have no active users on Reddit. Infinity works on Android where you can patch it with your own API key. So that's what I use. I don't use reddit in my iPhone at all.

Not that I'm advocating a return to Reddit, but Relay still works

[–] enu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

On top of that, some of those apps are coming to Lemmy. Sync just launched and if a big iOS one like Apollo were to follow, then I think a lot of users will come over just to check out the apps. At which point a lot of them will realize they like Lemmy and just stay here.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I feel like if you go through the effort of learning about and registering in the fediverse you have a higher chance of staying just because of the invested time.

[–] notapantsday@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

I came here due to the reddit drama and I'm definitely staying. Just like you, I like it here. The hardest part was actually making the switch, creating an account and finding communities to join. Now that that's out of the way, I really have no reason to go back. Reddit has become a hostile place, admins are actively fighting users and especially mods and I just don't feel comfortable there anymore.

It's like going to a restaurant where the owner is hitting the waiters and some of the guests. Doesn't matter how good the food is, doesn't matter if they're hitting me or not, I'm never going back to that place.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know I'm definitely not going back to Reddit. Ever since I found and joined Lemmy, I've been happier than I was on Reddit.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only problem nowadays is downtime in some instances. Also, if too many people join Lemmy, other problems will follow, such as spam accounts, Russian shill bots etc. which would be very hard to deal with for people running the instances.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone think Fediverse active userbase is going to fall as much too, only slower?

I don't think so, people who joined already are here for philosophical reasons that are stronger than FOMO or slight technical discomfort, and the platform is already good enough to keep us entertained.

[–] Cubes@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

I think Lemmy specifically doesn't fall victim to the issue of certain news agencies and personalities being exclusive to the platform as much as Mastodon does with Twitter. You can get the same news here as long as someone is there to post it, but that's where Lemmy is a bit behind at the moment: we haven't hit that critical mass of users such that smaller communities have enough content to sustain themselves. Maybe the platform isn't ready for all those people quite yet either; I think the software has a little maturing to do before mass adoption would happen.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I’m currently not interested in going back to Reddit but “quantity has a quality of its own”. Yeah there were bad spots on Reddit, but so many well developed communities, and most niches found enough people for regular activity. I have yet to find anything like r/askHistorians anywhere. r/CastIron was active an interesting , vs practically dead here, etc

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I think thread's number of users was because of how much instagram has made it's name in the social media market. A lot of the users were there because it was new so the larger userbase was already weak. On the fediverse however, you (at least right now) have to put in a little bit of effort to learn about federation, clients, services etc. It's there as an alternative to the bigger players rather than a polished packaged shitbox by them.

As @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world said, they will be there because of the invested time. I personally like it because it gives me close, tightly knit little communities on the web.

[–] hybridhavoc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to numbers shown on https://fedidb.org it basically already has. Monthly Active Users is only about 17% of total users.

This kind of retention rate is not uncommon in free social services.

[–] trambe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah pretty much.

Like as much as I dislike reddit, they still have the communities I interact with the most.

Lemmy is cool but it's mainly techy and nerdy stuff that I'm not that into.

I think social media is going to be in freefall for the next year or two until a new platform rises above the rest, and I don't think it will be any of the current ones.

Lemmy, kbin, and mastodon are kinda crap and basically help up on a ideal that will equally hold them back. None of us want to be here, we just don't want to be THERE either. The fediverse might take off, but these iterations are just a stopgap between more user friendly and successful platforms.

Tildes is a little light on content and somewhat elitist, it's the most reddit-like platform but it's also a walled garden and doesn't want to be anything else.

Twitter is a dumpster fire but everyone is too entrenched to leave it, Threads is shackled to Insta and Facebook so most people don't want to commit to that ecosystem and give Zuck more of their privacy than they already might have.

Reddit lost its soul, I think everyone is more wary of it now and just expect it to continue to get worse and farther from what we all used to enjoy it for.

I think the majority of people who spend a considerable amount of time online are going to bounce around between all platforms instead of primarily using one until a new Core platform pops up to fill the void.

It's probably healthy for us to be fragmented for a while though.