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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 7 April 2024 (awful.systems)
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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post, there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] HotGarbage@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Because I feel like picking on him again: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/04/02/google-podcasts

The only Google services I use are YouTube, Google Search, Gmail, YT Studio, Chrome, and Google Keep. Oh, and the Nest app.

It’s rather glorious living a nearly Google-free digital life.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 12 points 5 months ago

Okay, but apart from YouTube, Google Search, Gmail, YT Studio, Chrome, Google Keep and Nest, what have the Romans ever done for us?

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I haven’t been bitten by Google killing an app or service since Google Reader, because I never again trusted them. I suppose this might be a lot more difficult for Android users, but I honestly don’t even remember the last time I added a new Google app or service to the set of tools I rely upon.

yeah he sure as fuck won’t be bitten by trusting anything Google made after Reader, like say their thermostats that are embedded into his house (which he says don’t count because ???)

also:

YouTube, Google Search, Gmail, Chrome

when your Google-free life includes all of their major products plus shit you can absolutely do without like Keep and Nest

also also, because I keep fucking looking at it and getting mad:

I suppose this might be a lot more difficult for Android users

imagine being this fucking shitty about having bought an iPhone and being above the age of 13

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have a couple of Android devices and even with Android added to my list of Google products, I'm pretty sure I use fewer than Gruber.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it’s very inconvenient but I’ve managed to mostly de-google my couple of Android devices where practical — and there is a noticeable performance benefit to running without google play services, using Firefox, and installing simpler open source odroid apps instead of ad-filled play store ones, at least for the older tablets I recycle into purpose-specific computing devices

gruber, meanwhile, goes out of his way to replace safari with chrome on his Apple devices and then brags about being google-free on his blog

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm currently in the position of both having gotten as much google shit out of my life as possible, and also needing to track it fairly extensively for a work context (because 95%+ of our userbase is low- and midrange android)

I cannot say "fuck google and all they do" enough times to emphasise how this experience really makes me feel

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago

it absolutely sucks to be forced to use and develop for Google software at work (seriously, what in the fuck is wrong with Google’s docs and APIs?)

if there’s a silver lining, it’s that being forced to be intimately familiar with google’s garbage for work has made me a lot more eager to eliminate as much of it from my personal life as I can

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

when you’re such a Daring Fireball that you continue to use all of google’s products even when good alternatives are available, but insist you’re making a point by boycotting google

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While I love a good Gruber-sneer, he does qualify each existing choice extensively. I don't find the post as hypocritical as the edited extract would imply.

His gratuitous dumping on Android users is sneer-worthy though.

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have got to be honest, the justifications in the full post are half the reason why I’m sneering so hard. it’s possible I’ve got some anger left over from how much it fucking sucks to degoogle

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Ugh, I keep waiting for Florisboard or AnySoftKey to get good enough that I can replace google keyboard on my phone, it's very frustrating. I've basically given up on dropping gmail. I think that's all that's left of google for me.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the only google service i use is institutional gmail. i got myself a pixel, but it's degoogled. he's not even trying

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's the markdown guy, right? Goddamn what's with these nerdbros who got popular of one thing and then becoming insufferable, if not actively reactionary shits?

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 5 points 5 months ago

lol. the only google services i use are search , youtube, gmail (in the isolated browser containers), and the android phone. seems the apple licker is not degoogled at all.