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With a electoral system like Ranked Choice voting, people would feel safe to vote for whomsoever they wish, as their vote would still be counted even if their preference didn’t win.

Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.

Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.

Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?

More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.

Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?

Some day we will be able to vote for who best represents our interests. We won’t need to grovel on our knees, begging for representationin government. We won’t need to wait for the Republican party to stop existing.

We can do it right now. We don't have to get over a damn thing. If anyone needs to get over themselves, it would be the democrats who assume they are the only way forward.

Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.

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[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't think she would have made a good president even if the electoral college didn't exist. She would have been better than Trump but that's not saying much, because a shit sandwich is better than Trump.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Why wouldn't she have been good? She was one of the few people in Congress that actually cared about understanding and enacting policy (ie actually getting stuff done). Her platform was the only one with actual details on how to accomplish the stated goals on a legal level.

Not that any of that matters now, since her comment here is pretty shit.

But I don't like the re-writing of history on how she was a million times better candidate than Trump and had a ton of made up conspiracy nonsense being claimed about her at the time.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The thing with Hillary Clinton is that, even conspiracy theories aside (because I'm not a conspiracy theorist), her morals are ambiguous. She is not "clean", with some questionable things she's done over the years, including some potential corruption.

Now, I'm not saying she's the most corrupt in the bunch, but she's not the saint that sometimes the Democrats make her out to be. I'm also not holding her to a higher standard, because that's bullshit, but what I'm saying is if we are taking the moral high ground here, we should pick a better mascot.

Ultimately it comes down to whether would she have been a better president than Trump? Without a doubt. But would she have been a good president? I'm not convinced.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

Feel free to point out what corruption and morals you're referring to that aren't based on conspiracy theories or made up right wing mud-slinging then.

I remember a lot of the usual made up claims about her being anti-LGBT despite her long history of actually supporting the LGBT community (and voting or not voting for gay marriage in NYS is not a gotcha about her history or her reasons then).

It reminds me a lot of the made up nonsense about Biden's history with the African American community that right wingers and leftists were trying to mudsling over, yet said groups still being perplexed why he continued to have such massive support in said community. Because despite twisting of statements from decades ago, it was his actions that mattered. And that there's context to those actions (such as how the black community itself was the primary pushing force behind the 1994 crime bill).

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What did she get wrong? The Iraq War vote was a huge one in my opinion, but of course this entire question depends on your individual values.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really? You're bringing up that long since debunked canard? I can only assume you don't know anything about the context because you were a child when said vote happened.

Hint: That vote in question wasn't actually about allowing a war. And it didn't help that Bush actively lied about what intel we had from Iraq and Afghanistan. He really should have faced charges for that alongside Cheney.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

The intel that many of us knew was fake at the time, before the vote? That intel? ... Yeah.

You can assume whatever you like, my friend. Good luck with that.