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Hillary Clinton tells voters to 'get over yourself' when it comes to Biden-Trump rematch (www.cnn.com)
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With a electoral system like Ranked Choice voting, people would feel safe to vote for whomsoever they wish, as their vote would still be counted even if their preference didn’t win.

Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.

Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.

Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?

More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.

Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?

Some day we will be able to vote for who best represents our interests. We won’t need to grovel on our knees, begging for representationin government. We won’t need to wait for the Republican party to stop existing.

We can do it right now. We don't have to get over a damn thing. If anyone needs to get over themselves, it would be the democrats who assume they are the only way forward.

Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.

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[–] card797@champserver.net 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

THAT is a lot worse than Joe Biden.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then they should make me want to vote for them.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Trump should be enough motivation to vote for whoever is running against him.

Obviously it would be best to have someone you are motivated to vote for, but absent that mythical "perfect world", it's still in your interest to vote against the much worse candidate.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not voting for Trump either. Somebody on the right would feel the same as you do about that not being a vote against Biden.

Not voting is my vote. You can play the game if you want but looks like you might be in Canada.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You can play the game if you want

Given the cult-like loyalty that Trump somehow manages to have, I see abstaining from the vote as not negating their vote for the objectively more insane candidate.

but looks like you might be in Canada.

Yes I am, and what you guys do down there has an outsized effect on us (and anyone else who has a diplomatic or trading relationship with the USA).

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i'm one person. people are gonna vote if and however they want to vote. if Trump makes people vote, good for them. Biden does not make me want to vote, and using scare tactics to get me to vote proves they're just two sides of the same coin. left and right both have cult-like loyalty and there are insane people on both sides.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

i'm one person

Tons of elections have been won or lost by a really small number of votes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results

using scare tactics to get me to vote

Not voting means someone else gets to make that choice for you.

"Both sides are the same" is a lazy cop-out.

There are clear differences if you're willing to put In a small amount of effort to try.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Sorry. I’m not voting this election. Best of luck to you.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago

you have to earn a vote, it is not something you get by default ... also they are materialy the same, also Biden has failed to make any of his promises to the electorate unless you count the one to the doners where he said nothing would change... so no I will not be voting for biden