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With a electoral system like Ranked Choice voting, people would feel safe to vote for whomsoever they wish, as their vote would still be counted even if their preference didn’t win.

Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.

Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.

Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?

More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.

Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?

Some day we will be able to vote for who best represents our interests. We won’t need to grovel on our knees, begging for representationin government. We won’t need to wait for the Republican party to stop existing.

We can do it right now. We don't have to get over a damn thing. If anyone needs to get over themselves, it would be the democrats who assume they are the only way forward.

Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 105 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Two things can be true at the same time.

  1. She is a target of mysgonstic flavored consisparcy theories.

  2. She truly is unlikeable with half measure policies while being woefully out of touch with the average person.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (4 children)
  1. She is / was 100x more qualified than Trump.

  2. American voters are idiots.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's easy to be more qualified than totally unqualified. She was the obvious choice, but her total lack of charisma to voters destroyed that.

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The worst part is that more people voted for her, just not where it counts because she couldn't be bothered to campaign there

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, cause she's an elitist piece of shit, which makes her unqualified to anyone with a fuckin brain.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Still more qualified than the woefully unqualified, elitist trash that is Trump. Lol

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that Dem shills are dumb as fuck too, just not blatantly malicious like Republicans

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ok, but she got more votes across the nation in a nationwide election for a Federal job, so...?

[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As shitty as this sounds, does it matter whether or not she won the popular vote if that was not the metric for winning?

She, a career politician, should know that and her strategy was lacking.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, for sure, she should have had a better strategy. I don't disagree that she ran a terrible campaign. But OP said "more people voted for her" despite her bad strategy, which is true and frankly should have been a national point of months of protests. But instead, the person I responded to implied it doesn't matter because she's [insert stereotypical Clinton hate vomit].

It does matter. She did get more votes. That is in fact a fairer and more just way of representing a national vote for a national/Federal position. We all know there's an electoral college. But there absolutely shouldn't be because it inherently counts some votes as more valuable than others, which is frankly incompatible with democracy. So yes, that definitely matters.

[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

I agree with you, i just meant it in a plain cause and effect sort of way. It doesn’t matter in the sense that it is not a metric that matters for determining the outcome in the election, just an indicator of popularity.

Also, makhno said that she didn’t campaign in key states because of her elitism, and that attitude makes her less qualified. They didn’t say that it didn’t matter because of it.

Democracy, in the American sense, is a scam, and at the presidential level it’s the same mechanism from the ground up, full of antidemocratic mechanisms.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Cause people are idiots...?

And she stole the election from Bernie..?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  1. She should have run on a platform that was better than "What else are you going to do, vote for Trump?"
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago
  1. She shouldn't have pushed trump as the pied Piper candidate in the first place.
[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

And yet, unelectable!

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

She's from the Chicago suburbs, fuck that entitled bitch.