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I'm autistic. This problem shows up for me all over the place, to the point that I typically don't recommend reading anymore except when strictly necessary. However, it is showing up now because I'm working with people on a project (and generally everyone I have worked with at school so far) who will not read, particularly documentation for tools and programs, data sheets, and application notes. How do I get people "up to speed" if they refuse to read the things I send them?

Some concepts are simply too complex or too lengthy for me to explain correctly in a real conversation. It's really the fact that nobody seems to want to read in any field of endeavor suggests that it's something wrong with me and how I perceive things.

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[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

(and generally everyone I have worked with at school so far)

The context is a group project you have to do for school?

The reason I am checking is that these often turn into one person desperately trying to get the others to do something and ending up doing it all themselves. You're not really talking about "people" so much as "students who half-arse it until a few hours before the deadline".

What is it you're trying to get them to do? Why do they need to read the stuff you're sending them?

particularly documentation for tools and programs, data sheets, and application notes.

No one reads this stuff unless they absolutely have to. What is the purpose of asking them to read it?

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The context is a group project you have to do for school?

Yeah, grad school. I was expecting four years of college to filter out unserious students.

The reason I am checking is that these often turn into one person desperately trying to get the others to do something and ending up doing it all themselves.

I genuinely hope they just ask me to do the whole thing, because I can do the whole thing myself. I brought them on because I need to learn to work with people. Naturally, I would always work alone, but I've been burned a few times trying to take on group projects solo and burning myself out, so I brought on some people to split the work.

What is it you're trying to get them to do? Why do they need to read the stuff you're sending them?

I don't want to give out too many details in case they show up here, but I am trying to get them to write basic implementations of a few key features. They need to understand how the microprocessor actually communicates with the peripherals so they can configure it (and the peripherals) correctly. This topic is exactly what the course is about.

No one reads this stuff unless they absolutely have to. What is the purpose of asking them to read it?

It's a coding-intensive project where we need to communicate with a few peripherals without locking up the rest of the system. There's no way to just "figure out" this stuff. You either read the code, or you read the docs, or you flounder.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

so I brought on some people to split the work.

Grad students are underpaid and overworked. Do they have any reason to care as much about the project as you do?

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I thought the possibility of failing the class + the fact that they chose to be in my group voluntarily after warning them at every step of the process that this would be a challenge would be enough to motivate them.

Underpaid

Yeah only one of us has a job. We're not making any money for this lol.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

So, none of you have stipends and it is a group project for class. See my original answer. They're not going to have the same priorities as you and, if you're going to work with a group, you need to accept that.

Throwing mountains of documentation at them isn't going to work. Talk to them and find out what it is they are finding difficult. Break it down into more manageable chunks. Rough-code it and work out the details when they have a big picture to work from. Or whatever it is that makes sense given what you're doing.