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Oh, cool, a well researched article on right-wing disinformation campaigns. Can't wait to watch the Lemmy liberals accuse leftists of being a part of this without any evidence.
Can't wait for the liberals in power to try and expand the surveillance state using this as a pretext.
Yeah, I did notice this article had a weirdly anti-anonymity undertone, as though corporate algorithms designed push conflict and sensationalism weren't the driving force of disinformation.
I'm really happy with all the fucking porn bans and want more, yes please daddy, go through everything I"m doing and punish me for everytime I didn't kiss the America Flag
Um, aktuly, social credit score is from China, sweetie. Liberals are for liberty, it's right there in the name
Can't wait for these supposed "leftists" who-are-totally-not-righties-hiding-behind-anonymity to take for granted literally all the historical and modern day progress that came through none other than — you guessed it — the liberal legislature and liberal Justices.
From child labor laws to the civil rights act to same sex marriage — thank a liberal.
(Disclaimer: I'm further left than liberal on the political spectrum)
Lmao, yeah, thank the well known liberals and liberals only, like MLK and Malcolm X, for civil rights they were forced to acknowledge or face race riots.
Definitely wasn't the liberal establishment that assassinated them either. And liberal is the opposite of conservative btw 🤣
Don't bother, I just wasted a full day arguing with this guy on exactly this topic, and he just kept doubling down. I even quoted the portion of Letter from a Birmingham Jail about white moderates and his response was, "But then white moderates passed the Civil Rights Act a year later! How curious!" There is no amount of information that will convince him that moderate Liberals weren't responsible for the victories of the Civil Right movement.
Edit: See what I mean? Guys desperate for my attention 2 days later.
Always makes me wonder who these chuckleheads think were doing it before.
Exactly. Every time Liberals yield to pressure from leftists, these chuds want to credit the Liberals.
This confidently-incorrect fellow, who:
and:
and:
From https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/civil_rights/cloture_finalpassage.htm and https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2004/summer/civil-rights-act
For which he could not even respond to let alone refute — Truly believed the 1963 Birmingham letter was some smoking-gun when — checks notes — those same white moderates MLK Jr. was talking about wound up passingthe Civil Rights Act 1 year later.
Yes, you read those quotes correctly: Liberals were pushing to strengthen the Civil Rights Act while conservatives were trying to water it down.
Smh.
Don't tell him which ideology such surviving activists from John Lewis of the Edmund Pettus Bridge march or Jim Clyburn, both of the civil Rights era joined under.
Edit: See what I mean, guys? Still has nothing substantive to respond with. Truth can hurt sometimes. I'm still floored he tried to claim that conservatives supported the Civil Rights Act more than Liberals lol.
Isn't it funny that civil rights activists of the time from John Lewis to Clyburn joined the liberal Democrats?
But yes two things can happen simultaneously: there can be activists, and then there can be liberals who actually passed the Civil Rights Act. You know, liberals.
Sure wasn't confederate conservatives now was it?
Can't tell if you're saying Liberals are good or if Same Sex Marriage and Civil Rights are bad.. not comfortable either way
I have it on very good authority from several Lemmy libs that I'm a Russian troll.
Well, the types of misinformation will vary but anywhere people gather and have discussions is bound to have some bullshit floating around that gets spread around. It's a fault of humanity, not of any particular persuasion. But there is a far cry from rumors about how to find the Triforce in Ocarina of Time to shit like "vaccines cause autism" and such.
Yeah, but there's a tendency online in liberal circles to think that any criticism from the left is right-wing or foreign interference. I've seen a lot of people in the political groups here claim that the leftists they're arguing with are part of hostile disinformation campaigns, which is just silly; online propagandists make Facebook Groups and Pages to create memes and articles, and hundreds of sock-puppet accounts to disseminate them. They don't waste hours writing dozens of replies to a single account on a small, niche website.
Exactly. I'm not spreading propaganda. I'm just an idiot.
Part of the problem is there's lots of gullible people who repeat whatever nonsense makes them feel righteous. It's usually not clear if you're talking to a dumbass who fell for right-wing or Russian imperialist talking points, or an actual neonazi pretending to be a misguided leftist for trolling purposes, or an actual Russian imperialist pretending to be a misguided leftist for trolling purposes. I think you're right though that Lemmy is not a likely target for any kind of organized propaganda campaign because it's relatively tiny and would be a waste of time for those sorts of groups.
In the brave new world of LLMs, it no longer takes hours to write comments and replies all day in favour of some political or commercial view. The whole process can be automated! Cool, right?
Well, I've never used an LLM to argue with strangers online, but I would imagine that it would take a lot of effort to keep getting coherent responses to every comment. But even if it is fast and easy, are you really suggesting that right-wing or foreign trolls are concentrating on individual arguments on niche communities? I've heard of fake news outlets, astroturfed hashtags, propaganda memes, reply spam, and other broad influence campaigns, but I've never heard of troll farms being used for individual arguments, especially on small websites. It seems like, even did take minimal effort, it would also have minimal influence. Do you have any evidence this is happening?
Well, I've seen clear examples of AIs responding to comments on hot-button topics on reddit. But I guess that isn't a small website. In any case, the only point I was really trying to make is that widespread social manipulation is becoming easier. If someone decides they want to influence a discussion somewhere, they can do that without a great deal of effort. The comments don't have to be detailed or coherent. Simply being on-topic and persistent is enough, raising vaguely relevant talking-points whenever a response is expected.