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Listening to a recent episode of the Solarpunk Presents podcast reminded me the importance of consistently calling out cryptocurrency as a wasteful scam. The podcast hosts fail to do that, and because bad actors will continue to try to push crypto, we must condemn it with equal persistence.

Solarpunks must be skeptical of anyone saying it’s important to buy something, like a Tesla, or buy in, with cryptocurrency. Capitalists want nothing more than to co-opt radical movements, neutralizing them, to sell products.

People shilling crypto will tell you it decentralizes power. So that’s a lie, but solarpunks who believe it may be fooled into investing in this Ponzi scheme that burns more energy than some countries. Crypto will centralize power in billionaires, increasing their wealth and decreasing their accountability. That’s why Space Karen Elon Musk pushes crypto. The freer the market, the faster it devolves to monopoly. Rather than decentralizing anything, crypto would steer us toward a Bladerunner dystopia with its all-powerful Tyrell corporation.

Promoting crypto on a solarpunk podcast would be unforgivable. That’s not quite what happens on S5E1 “Let’s Talk Tech.” The hosts seem to understand crypto has no part in a solarpunk future or its prefigurative present. But they don’t come out and say that, adopting a tone of impartiality. At best, I would call this disingenuous. And it reeks of the both-sides-ism that corporate media used to paralyze climate action discourse for decades.

Crypto is not “appropriate tech,” and discussing it without any clarity is inappropriate.

Update for episode 5.3: In a case of hyper hypocrisy, they caution against accepting superficial solutions---things that appear utopian but really reinforce inequality and accelerate the climate crisis---while doing exactly that by talking up cryptocurrency.

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[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’m only responding this to point out that I never said that it was preferable to the current banking system.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well I guess I don’t understand why you want peer to peer cash transfers if not to avoid the banking system which already allows various methods of transferring money.

Or maybe you are saying both are bad and we need something better? If so I agree but otherwise I’ve lost what you’re trying to say here.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago

That's not what peer to peer means. P2P means no middle man, nobody taking a cut eg.

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

I didn’t do a good job in my messaging, I was agitated. but really I was just trying to say these things

  1. The global banking system represents a far bigger fish to fry, maybe like 100 to 1000 times bigger (it’s quite difficult to assess, but the total wealth held by private banks is frequently estimated to be in the hundreds of trillions of dollars. Compare this to the total value of literally all cryptocurrency)

  2. I probably see a dozen posts that are just writing the same criticisms of “cryptocurrency” over and over again without ever actually addressing why people are drawn to it in the first place, for every one post that’s complaining about banks. despite the fact that banks have screwed over orders of magnitude more people than any crypto bro could ever dream of

  3. When you don’t actually clearly spell out the problems that drew those people in in the first place, and at the very least empathize with them explicitly, all you do is alienate those people and you don’t actually get them to stop using cryptocurrency

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You sure are going to bat for it as though it were

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How do you figure I’m “going to bat” for cryptocurrency?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m extremely tired of criticisms of cryptocurrency without a very least acknowledging the problems with the global financial system that drew people to it in the first place

It's weird to request that criticism of something first do PR work for said thing, that's why

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

OK so you think that anybody who wants people to criticize the global financial system earnestly is doing PR work for cryptocurrency? Seriously? Please tell me I am misunderstanding you.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 0 points 7 months ago

Enough of your reason. You said something that might put cryptocurrency in a positive light, and you have been judged justly as bad. That's what makes us all feel good, and that's what we'll do. More downvotes for this guy please.

In case it's not abundantly clear: this is sarcasm.