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submitted 11 months ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

There are a lot of GOP-controller legislatures in the USA pushing through so-called “child protection” laws, but there’s a toll in the form of impacting people’s rights and data privacy. Most of these bills involve requiring adults to upload a copy of their photo ID.

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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

As an analogy, should governments allow children access to strip clubs and have parents handle it or should that be illegal and have kids banned from those physical spaces?

It’s interesting because I think banning kids from strip clubs is pretty popular, but the digital laws are not as popular. I don’t know of a way to enforce a ban in a digital space that doesn’t infringe on individual liberties though

[-] TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub 39 points 11 months ago

The reason is a technical one. At a strip club, none of your information is being transmitted; it’s just the bouncer making sure you’re of age by looking at your ID.

Per the EFF:

Age verification systems are surveillance systems. Mandatory age verification, and with it, mandatory identity verification, is the wrong approach to protecting young people online. It would force websites to require visitors to prove their age by submitting information such as government-issued identification. This scheme would lead us further towards an internet where our private data is collected and sold by default. The tens of millions of Americans who do not have government-issued identification may lose access to much of the internet. And anonymous access to the web could cease to exist.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/03/age-verification-mandates-would-undermine-anonymity-online

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

Being forced to reveal identification before you're allowed to view pornography is the equivalent of only being allowed to masturbate while your parents are in the room watching you.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

Banning children from strip clubs in no way impacts the rights of other adults to enjoy strip clubs.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

And, again, I am against the laws as written. But I’m asking more broadly about children accessing porn. I would never support a law that requires people to upload their ID, but there has to be some safe way to pull this off.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Oh well that's even easier then. I don't care what other people's children do, in general.

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