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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Could someone explain to me why AI art for DnD is such a bad thing? Doesn't AI make it so much easier for DMs to provide visuals for their campaigns?

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article is about an artist hired by Wizards using AI for paid work. AI work currently sits in a weord space with respect to copyright.

Wizards of the coast really like copyright and getting to enforce it.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

In particular, only human- created content is currently eligible for copyright protection.

About a decade ago, there was a case over who owned the copyright of a bunch of selfies taken by macaques with a camera left lying out by a wildlife photographer. The US Copyright Office ultimately decided the images were public domain since they weren't created by a human.

Because of that, AI art isn't eligible for copyright protections.

If you make a picture book using stable diffusion and chatgpt, the only thing you can protect is the layout you did by hand of the public domain text and images on the page. Someone could sell a competing derivative work with their own original layout.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Homebrew? Yes!

Asking for payments? Fuck off

[–] KaffeoKaka@mastodon.social 9 points 1 year ago

@RGB3x3 @TheTango
I think for the common person its fine, like making character art or some custom monster/place/whatevs for your own campaign but when you pay for it from a big, known publisher i think its reasonable and ethical to employ talanted artists.

[–] Skkorm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For home games it's great! When an artist who's being paid to draw original art uses it? Theft.

[–] Morgikan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it theft? Who are they stealing from? It's a workflow tool, right? So then using Photoshop is also theft.

[–] tuoret@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Photoshop wasn't assembled/trained using art created by uncredited and unpaid artists

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

All artists "train" on, and are influenced by, art created by other uncredited and unpaid artists. Art isn't created in a vacuum, nothing is.

[–] ClydapusGotwald@mastodon.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@RGB3x3 @TheTango it makes it easier but think of all the talented people who draw and actually create art. Their skills go unused and also the fact ai art uses other peoples art without their permission to learn and create. It’s not a simple answer and there are multiple reasons why ai art is frowned upon and disliked.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you people even read the article? This is about an official artist creating official artwork using AI.
And expecting DMs to pay for artists to create fanworks of characters or other campaign backgrounds and whatnot is really outlandish, sorry.

[–] ClydapusGotwald@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@DarkThoughts @TheTango @RGB3x3 paying for a service is outlandish. Oh boy you need a reality check.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You think people, including poor ones, are going to pay hundreds of bucks for some artworks for their D&D sessions? And you think I need the reality check? lol

Maybe just stop the whole bad faith trolling entirely because this is just cringe.

[–] SendMeBakedBeans@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People get art commissioned all the time though

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, but completely besides the point.

[–] SendMeBakedBeans@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, you mean art for individual sessions. Got it, misunderstood that.

[–] ClydapusGotwald@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@DarkThoughts @TheTango @RGB3x3 you don’t have to pay hundreds for good art. Art is subjective. Please stop trolling.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Wow, projecting much I see. Just going to tag you and sayonara.

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The linked article doesn't provide any details, it merely states that an artist used AI to "create" or "generate" artwork. However in a different article about the same incident the artist claims that he only used an AI as a tool to enhance his own drawings, and provides before and after images. Assuming he isn't lying to cover his ass, IMO the AI contributed very little to the artwork.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is particularly due to an artist using AI art for a source book they're publishing.

That's a problem for them because only human- created work is eligible for copyright protection; both animal-created art and AI art is inherently public domain. They want to control the IP in the source books, so they think it's a problem if people can legally just copy the images out of them.