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[-] timewarp@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

That's not how prosecution and evidence works. You can't just say cause they entered the Capitol building that they were all their to hang Pence, or kill Pelosi. You need actual evidence. Otherwise, what will happen is that you'll go to a peaceful protest and some agitator will do some crime and suddenly you'll be getting arrested saying you were there for the same purpose.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, the way it works is that a bunch of inbred hayseeds try to install Trump as dictator, and because you wish they had succeeded, you downplay what they did and pretend that the Supreme Court still has legitimacy.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

The Supreme Court hasn't had much legitimacy for much longer than you realize. They've been taking away consumer and workers rights for decades. You just haven't realized it until recently when it has become a hot topic and now it is easier to blame Republicans, but overlook everything else.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You just haven’t realized it until recently when it has become a hot topic and now it is easier to blame Republicans, but overlook everything else.

They've been more shameless about it. As in this case, where they're pretending that obstructing a government proceeding applies only to documents, and where you're pretending that anything other than ignoring the statute entirely requires enshrining guilt by association into law.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure how or whether you gather that they are pretending that obstructing a government proceeding only applies to documents, but that isn't what I gathered at all. I made two major points...

  1. That if they didn't question the law, then it would likely apply to Jamaal Bowman and other protests (many of those by Democrat activists)
  2. That doing so was dangerous as it sets a basis for charging everyone with the same crime regardless of evidence of their actual intended purpose.
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I’m not sure how or whether you gather that they are pretending that obstructing a government proceeding only applies to documents

Because I actually read the article instead of immediately being like "buh whuubut BLM?!??!?!"

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

So what did it say then cause it doesn't say what you're suggesting

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It's in the article that you ignored because you'd rather demonize BLM. Don't bother me again.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Not it isn't but fine by me. Have a good pipedream

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Not it isn’t

From the article you will never read:

His attorney argues that Congress intended the obstruction law to apply only to instances where defendants tampered with physical evidence, such as destroying or forging documents used in proceedings.

The court is sympathetic to this bullshit argument. Since it's not demonizing black people, you ignored it.

Have a good pipedream

Expecting you to quit whatabouting for Trump's inbred violent minions is a bit of an unrealistic expectation, yes.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Where do you gather that the court is sympathetic to the argument? The justices are literally questioning the other components of the same law which clearly involves more than documents. The justices do not indicate that they believe it only pertains to destroying/tampering with documents, and I have no clue how you could gather that from the article.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Where do you gather that the court is sympathetic to the argument?

You've admitted they're illegitimate already. They're sympathetic to any argument as long as its application yields results Republicans want.

The justices are literally questioning the other components of the same law which clearly involves more than documents.

Because they want to limit the scope of the law to documents only. Why would they question the part of the law they want to keep?

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Because they want to limit the scope of the law to documents only. Why would they question the part of the law they want to keep?

The part of the law they are questioning has to do with actual actions/violence to prevent official proceedings. They are questioning the scope of the other parts, not saying that they intend to exclude it entirely. They can't make up new laws. They can only interpret them. Yes, they can have poor interpretations, but they'd seriously struggle trying to exclude things entirely without having uproar throughout the federal court system which comprises of several liberal judges as well.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

This thread is now 4 days old, and the comment to which you responded is two days old.

You are trying to waste my time, and I'm not going to participate in this discussion any longer.

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