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[–] pvq@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What ever happened to initiatives such as project Treble? Do you guys think updates have gotten better on Android?

I remember when I used to be excited about Android OS updates and kept watching videos about new features (that I was not gonna get anytime soon because I was stuck in an old version of Android)... It's been years since I've been excited about an Android update.

Little side note rant:
My biggest annoyance with Android is the share menu. I hate how it's different for different apps (Firefox is vastly different from other apps for instance). I can notice at least 3 different sharing menus with the apps I frequently use. Makes it hard to build muscle memory.... And I cannot pin the apps I actually use frequently for sharing stuff. Also the direct share thing never worked for me. I think it's only for sharing via SMS or Email neither of which I use for sharing content, so it ended up being just a waste of space for me.

Hope they fix the share menu one day..... But then I'd have to wait to change my phone to get the updates.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, Project Treble is in full swing, which is one of the main reasons you now frequently see Android phones with 3+ years of software support, often even with multiple Android OS version updates.

Project Mainline is the other thing that caused OS updates to be rather lame. Since increasingly many former Android components are now just apps updated over the Play Store, there are less features in each Android update. For example, back in the day, even the Android browser was part of the OS and would only be updated when the OS was updated.

Now Google is even throwing apps like the dialer and the messages SMS app out of AOSP.

With so little of what used to be Android remaining inside Android and these outsourced components following a different release schedule, Android OS updates are mostly limited to UI refreshes or under-the-hood improvements.

But while this makes OS updates less exciting, it also means that you get improvements faster (because components don't have to wait for the next OS update) and longer (because you get component updates when your device manufacturer dropped support for your phone).

Regarding the share menu:

There is actually only one OS share menu, but different apps sometimes implement their own share menus, which is dumb, but not really Android's fault. But yeah, the product managers at Firefox for Android are peculiar, to say the least.

[–] ayyndrew@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Android updates have become both less exciting and less meaningful because so many of the core apps are updated through the Play Store, and features just come out when they are ready. If Google held off updating their apps for a year everytime, each update would feel like a much bigger deal

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

But holding them makes zero sense, like, why wait for an improvement if you can ship it already?