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How are there so many things wrong with this vehicle? Like a total recall for the accelerator pedal sounds like the least of their concerns when the car can be bricked by a reboot and the exterior isn’t allowed to have bird shit on it unless it’s removed immediately.
I mean, I know why. But how? Aren’t vehicles massively regulated? How did any of these make it off the production line?
Depends on the local laws. It's not road legal in the EU, for example
Even if it were, it weighs 3,4 tons empty. Most EU Citizens have drivers licenses that allow cars up to 3,5 tons max. weight, including driver, passengers and cargo.
It's impossible to use in the EU without an actual truck driving license.
"Truck driving licence" is rather simplifying it.
There are carious degrees of licences between B (up to 3500kg) and a "proper" truck driving licence, CE, which allows you to operate actual full combination trucks.
C1, one above B is basically a van licence, and that's up to 7500 kg and up to eight people. This is a fairly common licence.
I myself have a C licence, which was also very common to drive when I went through driving school, and it has no weight limit. I can drive a truck of any size, but I don't have an "actual truck licence" in the sense that I don't have the CE licence nor do I have the professional licence for a C sized truck. (And I can't drive buses, those call for a D licence instead)
So basically something that exceeds 3500kg but isn't a professional vehicle is the only thing my C would be useful for. B class licence is certainly more common, but C and especially C1 are still plenty common.
You don't? Honestly, I never thought about it. I use them interchangeably. Most programs I use, accept both signs. But comma is the standard.
That'll change when EVs begin to dominate the market, they all weigh considerably more than their ICE counterparts.
Thank god. At least I won't die of cringe after seeing this on the streets.
Vehicle regulations are typically only for emission standards or exhaust loudness. For the most part as long as the vehicle can do the speed limit there's very little regulation on the matter.
You're forgetting the annual safety inspection required in most US states. That'll catch stuff like brakes wearing out, taillights and headlights that need to be replaced, and other stuff.
That's never happened to me in my life. The only time the state ever "inspects" my vehicle is if I've already been pulled over for something like my exhaust
I did say "most" states. I used to work at a car dealer's service department, and I've seen some cars come in where they don't have a state inspection sticker because the owner just moved from a state that doesn't do state inspections.
Because of that job, I've also seen stickers from other states that do do state inspections. Most of them will be on the windshield either in the bottom corner on the driver's side or in the bottom center. They'll list a month and year as numbers (ex. 8 and 24 for August 2024) for when the inspection sticker expires.
So, at least in my state, someone with 8/24 on their sticker would at least need to drop their vehicle off at a mechanic (not necessarily the car dealer, just a mechanic authorized to do state inspections) by the last day of the month. If the mechanic doesn't do the inspection until the the beginning of the next month, that's fine. You'd just get a sticker that says 9/25 on it when they're done.
I mean conceptually that sounds fine like our vehicles should be inspected to ensure proper maintenance. The only problem I can see with that is poor people like myself.
I've gotten ticketed for having a loud exhaust because I was a pizza delivery driver and our cities roads are so bad doing the speed limit will total your car. I didn't have the money to fix my exhaust which is what I told the officer who basically said "Now you'll have even less money" before handing me the $150 ticket.
I need a car for work (I don't work pizza anymore but still have a 30 minute drive) just because one aspect of my car isn't up to code doesn't mean I don't still need my car to get to work.
The state inspection in my state costs a set, predetermined amount. The mechanic legally cannot charge more than that amount. (I think it's about $10, but I could be misremembering. It's somewhere around there, though.) If anything doesn't pass inspection, that's where the cost can come in. How much it costs depends on where you get the thing fixed.
In my state, if you car doesn't pass inspection and you choose not to get the thing repaired right away so it does pass (maybe you don't have the money right away, or maybe you want to bring it someplace cheaper to get it fixed), you're given 30 days to fix it, regardless of the original expiration date in the sticker. They replace the inspection sticker with a special "state inspection rejection" sticker that says by what date the inspection is due. At my old job, I used to see plenty of people come in on the last day of the month knowing their car would fail inspection. They came in to get that 30 day extension.
Generally, inspections don't take too long to do, though that can vary depending on where you bring your car. They usually won't take longer than 24 hours, though. For me, they're usually done either within a couple hours of bringing the car in (if I bring it in early enough) or by mid-morning the next day (if I bring it in in the later afternoon or evening). So I could bring my car in after work on the day before my day off, and it's pretty much guaranteed that it'll be ready by about 10am the next day the next day (or end of day if they find something wrong, depending on what it is).
When I was working at the car dealer, customers waiting in the lobby would typically have their car ready within a couple hours, and customers who had alternative transportation would usually have them done by the end of the day with enough time for us to call the customer and for the customer to come by and pick up their car.
This definitely isn't the case everywhere, but the dealer I worked at also gave out free loaner cars for customers to use depending on the circumstances (ex. did the customer have an appointment) and availability (ex. do we have any loaner cars available right now). Customers just coming in for a state inspection wouldn't typically get one, but, if there was something that didn't pass inspection, then we might set them up with one if we had one available and if the customer wasn't able to wait any longer.
Tl;dr: In my state, getting a state inspection is usually relatively painless. The inspection itself doesn't cost much, but the cost of fixing something so it passes inspection depends on where you go. There are also ways to get extensions if you need them, and, if you plan ahead, you can usually get your state inspection done on your day off without any problems. Even if there's something that'd cause it to fail inspection, it's usually still done the same day.
how brave of you! are you a soverign citizen also?