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[–] _aj42@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago (2 children)

Can't believe 'ISIS existed so we have to put all these Muslims in camps' is an actual take

[–] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

What do you think happens to people in western countries spreading terrorist propaganda? Right they sent them to prison.
Also western intelligence seems to be not opposed to the concept of early deradicalisation, here is an interesting take from Richard Barrett, former director of global counter-terrorism at MI6:

We need to get to potential terrorists before radicalisation, not afterwards Once an individual has fallen for extremist propaganda, it’s hard to change their mind. Better to spot the early signs

[–] _aj42@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

And why should what western countries do make a difference? Are they the epitome of virtue now?

Also, you're literally engaging in right wing talking points when you describe all the Muslims in the province as terrorists or terrorist sympathisers

[–] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

Also, you’re literally engaging in right wing talking points when you describe all the Muslims in the province as terrorists or terrorist sympathisers

I'm not doing that, I don't know where you get that impression, but okay.

[–] KiaKaha@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Imagine you could go back in time and have an actual state power in Iraq, instead of the hollow shell US contractors left it with, and implement adequate deradicalisation programmes.

Would you do so? Or would you wait a few years, then bomb Raqqa to rubble?

[–] _aj42@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I feel like there's room for nuance between doing whatever the fuck the US did and putting Muslims in camps

[–] KiaKaha@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I figured ‘use various measures to target people prone to far right extremism, teach them why that’s wrong, then provide employment, while investing in the region to address the material conditions that led to the unrest’ was the nuanced approach.

I’m sure there are ways it can be improved, and I’m sure their approach has its excesses. I’m just so far unconvinced that there’s any better historic approach to draw upon.

If you know of any, please let me know.

[–] ap1@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

leave Xinjiang as an autonomous zone, continue to offer voluntary education and work programs and welcome any refugees to China. Carrot vs stick.

[–] hogposting@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

The American South is a region filled with religious extremists, some of whom have already radicalized to the point of committing acts of terrorism. Should we make it its own country and fund their schools to boot? Is that likely to improve the situation or make it worse?