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Genuinely curious. I keep thinking “it can’t get much worse without some kind of mass uprising” but the ability of the general population of Western states to just soak up suffering seems endless. Do you think we will actually see mass movements in the next decade or two? Or just slowly lurch into a void of ever-shittier liberalism?

By the West I mean like. Western Europe and the Anglosphere I guess.

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[–] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago (11 children)

I swing from a soft "no" to "no fucking way." There's a reason we're so propagandized: it works. Most "revolutionaries" think we need more liberal flavored capitalism, not less. We're atomized and designed to hate each other. The idea of people coming together just fucking baffles me. I don't see how. Look how easy BLM was dismissed, condemned then co-opted and turned around. Same with defunding the police. Same with anything.

Yeah. Not gonna happen. Not to be grim. I just don't see how.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago (9 children)

No amount of propaganda can feed your stomach

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (8 children)

No amount of starvation can educate people. Look at all the poor countries that haven't had communist revolutions when there was a complete breakdown of society and economy

[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

I think what you're failing to take into consideration is that all those poor countries that haven't had communist revolutions have had the weight of the most powerful empire ever to exist on earth bearing down on them and doing its best to ensure any communist revolution was strangled in its crib. Yet despite this, some of them succeeded in communist revolutions anyway! The lack of revolutions in the periphery since the advent of capitalism is not evidence for the lack of revolutionary potential in a starving population. Saying it is is just not taking all the material conditions into account.

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