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Seems like they are under attack again, will those people never stop? I feel sorry for the admin team.

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[–] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin

So you don't count people you know online, you also don't go to organizing union meetings, are not part of collectives and not part of a real left party (thus are likely an individualist, moralist, idealist liberal who will often - since there is little self critique and reflection - for example having thought how you could integrate parts of being anti racist in your life within a group). Of course you might be called a reactionary in some cases. Feel free to link to them, post those opinions in the un-safe space we got here as quote and people can do reflect on that. Taking your quote (which likely ignores context to present yourself in a better light) I have to say that:

trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want" (good) "***********************” (bad)

Yeah that is reactionary. You were rightfully banned as you broke server rules. There were enough campaigns i.e. "Read Trans Liberation!" for you to educate yourself. You didn't. You are not the victim here.

To break it down: You went into a space of solidarity and then climbed on a chair and yelled "I don't care about [group you are supposed to be having a minimum degree of solidarity with]". Everyone is able to understand that this is even if it is your uncle's birth date and you would yell that you don't care about your uncle it is a social faux pas. However what you did is much worse.

cat-trans The website's slogan at that point even was "We love our trans comrades!"

Besides:

and told to k**l m***lf and then a mod agreed with them

X: [Doubt]

You already showed yourself to be an unreliable narrator, no reason to believe such an extraordinary claim.

Edit Wonder who downvotes this post

Edit2:

CW in effect transphobia commited in a save space, with multiple repeating posts and comments and an unwillingness to see the perspectives of others, this is the context of what OP did post:

spoiler

Is the constantly talking about being trans in leftist spaces not also fueling the over focus on trans people? removed by mod posted by fawx [he/him] to askchapo •

So no one thinks I'm a troll, I completely support trans people doing whatever the fuck they want with their bodies. And I don't mind seeing trans stuff. But with that said, I feel like the hundreds and hundreds of posts I see about trans people is not helping. Going off like this site and a few others I browse you'd think trans people are like 40% of people instead of more like 2%.

I feel like constantly putting them in the spotlight, even to say you support them is just contributing to this "trans awareness burnout" I hear about in a lot of my non-leftist conversations.

I heard things similar to that within the spoiler during the 80s when I did attend gay meetups, protests and LGBTQ* representation in media became slightly more common (while what we did was still criminal in many places). Turns out I wasn't gay btw. I was bi (and that includes trans people as bi is defined as having attraction to more than one owns gender) and still am, but was, too. However the gay spaces were the spaces which enabled me to be myself and not the eternal cycle of "this is too much progress for the [women/black people/jews/italians/gays/insert minority/marginalized group of your choice]! they would progress more if they would be silent and try to pass as cis white evangelical hetero who eat meat and drink beer in unhappy marriages!"

fawx has the capacity to change and act different, as well as to not slander thousands of users with re-tellings of stuff that didn't happen like that and which minimizes their actions (which is understandable human, but it remains wrong. I do understand the emotional feeling of giving somebody a wipe as fawx did try to do with depicting hexbear as bad for excluding him for no reason - and the willing audience of people taking that for a fact instead of doing their due dilligence). Still the burden is on fawx to read, speak, listen and not primarily center themselves. If they are actually in the union they have enough ways to grow (attending IWW and other fighting unions organizing meetups and summer schools for example).

[–] diamat@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the post that he got banned for. He basically barged into the space asking to tone it down with the trans support.

[–] raresbears@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just to add to the context, here are some of the now removed comments from the log

[–] Fawxhox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm literally the union representative for my job, and most of your other assumptions are also wrong. You're also doing an uncharitable reading of my post. I don't care about trans people means "I am not bothered by them" like I don't care whether we have hotdogs or hamburgers.

You're the kinda person that ruined that instance.

[–] raresbears@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Essentially blaming people expressing support for trans people for the right wing culture war focus on trans people is definitely a bit more than just saying you're fine with trans people doing what they want. Stop being so dishonest about what people were pissed at you for. You know it wasn't a "blatantly pro trans comment"

[–] Fawxhox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but it was and you're wrong.