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[–] dark_stang@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google is actually a great parallel here, because of what they did to XMPP (the federated chat protocol). They implemented it for hangouts/gchat. It was a good on-ramp that allowed people to talk across platforms. Then Google created a bunch of features that only worked internally and not with XMPP. Then they removed XMPP.

[–] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

XMPP didn't work on mobile. You had to have the app running to receive messages, and the battery wasn't large enough to keep the CPU powered up all day.

Google was right to abandon XMPP and pretty much every other platform did it at the same time. It's a shame they all chose proprietary solutions but XMPP was never really an option once smartphones entered the picture.

[–] dark_stang@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Somebody not being able to message me while I'm offline is a fantastic feature that I wish we still had. I miss that.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

IIRC Slack did something similar with IRC.

[–] anvit@mstdn.social 1 points 1 year ago

@abhibeckert @dark_stang where are you getting all of this from?! Apps run in the background all the time, and there were mobile XMPP clients around back in the day. Pretty sure even Skype did XMPP for a bit.