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Why Would He Help Putin?
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this post was submitted on 05 May 2024
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But a disturbing amount of Lemmy is ready and willing to risk making him President because of one issue that Trump would also do nothing to fix.
*Because of one issue that Trump explicitly said he would do much much worse with
I'll never fucking understand it. They claim to care, but he will be substantially worse, and also make their lives directly worse on top of it.
I get it. Nobody wants to actively vote for a guy supporting genocide. But they need to grow up and realize that if they can't make a good choice, they need to make the better choice, no matter how much it sucks that we're at this point.
One supports it (probably because he can't please everyone)
The other would gleefully assist in the genocide
I think Biden would please a lot more people if he just didn't pick a side. Nobody I talk to, no matter where on the political spectrum they land, likes him supporting Israel.
I haven’t heard about this in YEARS but wasn’t there something about us having to support Israel to have a friend in the Middle East?
Also why haven’t I heard about that in years 🤔
(For the record, I’m pro-no-more-dead-kids, and anti-famine.)
I'm not sure if you mean on main stream news or not but I see that sentiment here daily
Might need to spend more time on politicalmemes then!
Referred to anywhere actually, should’ve mentioned I haven’t been specifically seeking news from the Middle East.
Sadly the side was chosen before he was even VP. The U.S. has been sending money and weapons for decades.
Then you're in a political bubble.
Biden is already assisting it.
And "he can't please everyone" is not a good excuse for it.
Supporting genocide is not a matter of "growing up".
Dems have reached the end of the "lesser of two evils" strategy. It turns out literal genocide is the point at which people no longer respond that rhetoric, weird huh?
So what's your solution?
For Biden to stop supporting genocide. If you want him to win the election that's the fastest and most direct solution. It's not a difficult ask.
If you don't want to actively vote for a guy supporting genocide, then exercise your right to not do that by picking a third party candidate that best aligns with your interests and vote for them. Disparaging the people whose votes you absolutely have to have isn't going to persuade them to vote for the person you're voting for. Just makes you look silly.
There is no "worse" than full on, reigns free, genocide. Biden isn't just doing nothing he's supplying the genocide. The only way it could be worse is if US troops were activated to help.
It's a bullshit talking point to pretend Trump could do worse on this issue (especially since it is never accompanied with any specifics about how he'd be worse on this issue). Biden is full genocide support, you might not like hearing that and knowing your vote will serve as an endorsement for continued Democratic complicity in genocide, but that's what it is and is exactly why people simply cannot support Biden without him taking action to reverse his course.
You might be willing to excuse it, many aren't, especially those who have literal family members being killed by US bombs right now. There are no rhetorical gymnastics that make it ok.
Hahaha! Jesus fucking christ, what are you, twelve? Was the first illegitimate trump administration happening while you learned colors and letters? You have got to be fucking joking with this garbage. Nobody can give specifics on how he’d be worse! HAH! For fuck’s sake. If you’re not from America, ok, but otherwise - please. There have been many cogent arguments as to how he’d be worse - do you need help finding them? Are you actually, in good faith, asking? Because I doubt it. And if it’s even a question to you whether trump can manage a competent foreign relations situation, you’re either being disingenuous or comically ignorant.
If you were arguing in good faith you'd be able to at least comprehend why people find it difficult to put their name on a genocide.
The more hysterical you get, the more you just look like an out of touch fanatic who's so jaded that you can't even grasp why people would have a problem giving the Democrats permission to be a party that behaves like the GOP in the very worst way imaginable.
No amount of talking down or being condescending will get you what you want. Use that energy to pressure your representatives.
What? You said,
Which is laughable. Jaded, may be, but not as credulous and ignorant as to think trump would improve the situation in Gaza. Or - maybe you’re just repeating the GRU talking points as directed. I dunno. They’re just coincidentally the same talking points. Biden is the worst ever, trump would do better.
Since you’ve made no effort to discuss anything, we’ll wrap it up then. Good luck with whatever country you’re in.
Even if that were true (it's not) acting like that's the only issue on the table is absurd. Trump will be worse not just when it comes to Palestine, but all around.
It’s the Bernie Bros all over again. No need to bother they’re almost as cultish as maga
It's #walkaway all over again.