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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 173 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Said Merchan (per NBC News), "The last thing I want to do is to put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States, and possibly the next president as well. There are many reasons why incarceration is truly a last resort for you.”

I don't care what job the defendant used to have or what job he's applying for, and neither should Judge Merchan.

He MUST be treated like any other defendant or we don't have a functioning democracy or a justice system.

Referencing his previous job or status as a political candidate is actually 'special treatment' and the judge absolutely should not be doing that. trump is a criminal defendant in a court of law, and the court of law is supposed to apply the law equally the same to all citizens.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 93 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trump's nonsense immunity claim doesn't even apply here. He is not president. He has been found in criminal contempt for actions he took when not president.

I am 100% certain that everyone is handling him with kid gloves because they know that treating him like any other defendant would likely result in violence. Well, guess what? There's gonna be violence in November (and/or January and beyond) no matter what the election results are. Trump loses? Violence because "stolen election." Trump wins? Violence because "Now we can hurt all the people we've always wanted to hurt."

It's not a matter of "if." It's "when" and "to what extent." Justifiably jailing Trump controls the "when," making the response to "to what extent" more effective. It would also force Trump and his menials' hands before the election.

Let's fucking go.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It turns out America doesn't just negotiate with terrorists; it in fact completely abandons any illusion of democracy, or a justice system, under the threat of terrorism — as long as it's an oligarch from the private elite boys club.

LOL

[–] person420@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 4 months ago

It depends on which flag the terrorist is waving

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

You're absolutely right that they are treating him with kid gloves due to the very real potential for violence. It is my belief they are trying to curb that guaranteed damage as much as possible. I am in agreement that he should have the book thrown at him and get special treatment for a weekend in a jail cell. Let him bring his slippers.

BUT...I do get it. Assuming we're right and they are trying to curb that violence, this does make sense. It just fucking sucks.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Everyone knows he's been getting special treatment from the start. Idk why saying it out loud is a no-no.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Honestly, I read the judge's statement as a sort of appeal to Trump's ego and integrity. Like a, "Come on bro, you were the president, don't make me throw you in jail,jackass."

It's mostly performative, so the judge can say he didn't want to when he eventually ~~gets~~ has to.