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Liberals when Ukraine is flying swastikas: I SLEEP
Liberals when Palestinians have not only a moral but legally justified under international law war to defend themselves and push out colonizers: REAL SHIT ?
I don't really recognise this in responses that I've heard so far. Everyone seems to be quite aware that Israel's military capabilities can't be compared to those of Hamas and a large part of the escalation is in the hands of Israel.
The western world can't even agree on what liberals are. It is not that helpful to characterise 'liberals" in a particular way around this issue, especially when randomly involving minorities in Ukraine.
Instead of focussing on whose side who is on, let's focus on reducing suffering and how to work towards a situation where international agreements are upheld.
Bernie Sanders isn't a liberal? Trudeau isnt a liberal? Biden isn't a liberal?
The entire democratic party aren't liberals? The German government aren't made up of liberals? Macron, the Tories, Keir Starmer, Ursula von der Leyen, Cornel West, according to you none of these people are liberals?
I mean you're not even obfuscating, youre just straight up delusional
Whoa, way to escalate a discussion. I thought we all fled from Reddit because of things like this.
Liberalism is not a single ideology. I wrote a few other replies to explain this. Check the Wikipedia page on liberalism in Europe, it's quite diverse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_in_Europe
You fled reddit because you were scared of reddits policies.
Hexbear was exiled from reddit because reddit was afraid of the power of r/CTH.
We are not the same.
Liberalism is the ideology that justifies the continued existence of capitalism
It has many subspecies with tactical differences, but they are all united in the preservation of capitalist property relations
We fled reddit because they could not contain our posting power
Politeness is a truncheon the liberal "consensus" uses to tone police the oppressed