Please continue the discussion in the news megathread: https://hexbear.net/post/799045
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The Israelis have the power to end the political and economic conditions (which they created and maintain) which lead to violence
The Palestinians do not
If you're saddened or angered by the deaths of Israeli civilians, you can take those complaints straight to the Israeli government. Any handwringing about violence committed by the Palestinians is de facto support for the illegal occupation of Palestinian land and the apartheid state of Israel.
I have nothing but unwavering support for the Palestinian people, but watching this is like watching John Brown pick up the sword and march on Harpers Ferry. Nothing but the noblest motive but I can't imagine this ending remotely well. May God be with all Palestinians today, they'll need him
This thread is an embarrassment, I can't believe there are people on Hexbear handwringing about violence against settler civilians. Did Native Americans never kill colonizer civilians? Are we going to start condemning the Haitian revolutionaries?
Israelis are constantly pretending they live in fear of being killed by Palestinian "terrorists". Have they considered fucking leaving, which is an option the Palestinians don't even have? No Israeli children would be in a position to be killed in the fighting or held hostage if their colonizer parents hadn't put them there. These children are victims, but they're victims of their colonizer parents and colonizer politicians.
You want to talk about children being held hostage to ensure compliance from adults? How many Palestinian children are there in the open air prison of Gaza, where 2/3 of the population are under 25 years old?
Biden says this is "unprovoked". The USA is a nation of lies.
usians are the most propagandized people on earth
god i feel sick. 198 palestinians reported dead already, compared to 40 israelis killed in the initial attack. this is only going to get worse, and ghouls on twitter are naturally saying they want to bomb gaza back into the stone age
I dont understand settlers, mfers volunteer to leave their comfortable aparterments in brooklyn to steal and live in someone else house in a desert. Like wtf is wrong with them.
May the evil terrorist state of Israel be erased from the face of this earth and Palestine be free to thrive as a nation.
Back in the late 80s Israel chose to support what became Hamas to oppose the secular left of the PLO. Blowback is a bitch.
Western “leftists” showing their whole ass. I’ve got a nice luxury resort for genocide apologists right here
Ukraine and Israel are going to show how utterly spineless and compromised the “Eat the Rich” crowd truly are.
Uncritical support for the brave people of Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸✊✊✊✊
when Cubans seize private property
when Israelis seize private property
Liberals talking about Hamas: They are all Islamic extremists, it doesn't matter how much Palestinians think they need their help.
Liberals talking about Ukrainian nazis: But they're being attacked! They need all the help they can get!
Gee I wonder what's different
Ukraine is a heckin' smol bean nazi who needs our epic G*mer help!
Freaking smurfs IRL
Didn't we literally kill like a million Iraqi children from sanctions in the 90s (cue Madeline Albright laughing and saying it was worth it) and like, idk, 1-5 million Iraqis?
I feel like we can imagine the slaughter just fine. Marg bar this bitch, yo
um actually it was only half a million Iraqi children, so your comment gets a rating of "Mostly False"
Liberals when Ukraine is flying swastikas: I SLEEP
Liberals when Palestinians have not only a moral but legally justified under international law war to defend themselves and push out colonizers: REAL SHIT ?
Netanyahu has just said live on television that they will 'turn Gaza into a deserted island'.
I'm hearing very indirectly along grapevines that among Israelis, including liberals, the mood is becoming - and I quote verbatim - "kill them all".
The bravery of Palestinian resistance fighters is making this communist feel a little hope. Lot of good images coming out of Palestine today.
Lot's of "comrades" in here are full of first world brainworms.
Let's pretend that the Vietnam war or Cuba's revolution were happening today. If we follow their arguments, they would totally oppose the expresions of resistance and anticolonialism because "people are going to die, so we just need to stop the use of violence".
Like Mandaela once said: "We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians."
So no need to keep the "whataboutism" going. At the end of the day, is just a defense to keep the status quo and, by extension, the Israelí apartheid state...