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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

People need to stop expecting every fruit and vegetable to be available fresh year round. I shouldn't be able to get fresh berries in the middle of winter.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Fresh fish too is such a killer. I’m sorry, but do not buy seafood if you live in the Midwestern United States, especially anything live or fresh. Frozen is slightly better, but even then think of what goes in to making that happen.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Midwest has the great lakes. Too bad we killed a lot of the stuff in there.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Local is always going to be the best option, so it is a shame we absolutely devastated local environments to ship food halfway across the world

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 months ago

All of the seafood in the Midwest has been frozen and thawed back out at the grocery store. Fresh fish in the Midwest and even near the coast is a lie. 85% of all us fish consumed is imported, and it was frozen before it ever got into US territory. Many fishing boats freeze them on ship, even. The only way you can chance upon "fresh" fish is if it's in season and near the coast you're buying in.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t most of Iceland’s diet fish?

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe, but Iceland is surrounded by ocean filled with fish and most people live on the coastline. That’s much more sustainable than buying live clams/ fresh fish from a chain grocery store in North Dakota

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Just you said the Midwest. And whilst Iceland is surrounded by water, it’s competing on the global market.

[–] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hang on where is the mid west? Presumably not the middle of the western world…

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The Midwest they are referring to is a region of the land-locked interior of the united states. Generally refers to the states in the region comprising of: Nebraska to the West, Minnesota to the North, Ohio to the East, Missouri to the South, and those that lie between.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh. Seems like it would be wise to say “mid west US”…narrows it down slightly.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

shrug-outta-hecks

The region is actually called "The Midwestern United States/The American Midwest" but longform is so out of fashion these days

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is the gag that Iceland's in the middle of "the West"?

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Well, Europe is in the middle of the west, roughly. Iceland is one country I can think of that is dependent on fish.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

I see where you are coming from and that’s my bad, I’ll make the term more specific.

I was using a colloquialism common to the United States which refers to a group of landlocked areas hundreds/thousands of miles away from the ocean

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They had 3 wars against UK for fishing rights. Won all three too, since they threatened to quit NATO and USA immediately reprimended Brits.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We’ve fucked ourselves over with fishing rights, there was no point.

When we were doing Brexit, the pro Brexit politicians got the fishermen on their side. But they’d sold fishing rights to Europe.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As i see this Brexit was one hell of a hoax. Sure, fuck EU but from the outside of UK it clearly looked as because EU was not neoliberal and imperialist enough for them.

[–] Blottergrass@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

its fresher flash frozen anyway.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Most westerners are of an “me first” attitude. You seriously expect them to accept the fact that they just can’t have something?

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're going to have to if anything is to be done about climate change. (I do not expect anything to be done about climate change.)

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Same. I’m sure the rich will be fine, until it becomes obvious they’re utterly useless.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

many certainly are cucked by their political economy into believing with absolute certainty, despite all evidence to the contrary, the current and wildly unsustainable configuration is all that's possible.

pretty sure if they can swallow "Trump v Biden = democracy" and "no money for healthcare, infinity money for war" they can wrap their minds around "no vine ripe tomatoes in January".

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We have Labour versus Conservatives. I have no sympathy. Sorry.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

no one asked you to. you stated westerners can't accept limitation, and then I pointed out how they do, constantly, and with great ease.

sorry you're having so much trouble keeping up with your own argumentation.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago

I was taking the piss.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

How can you expect us to give up our treats!?!?!? You must hate freedom.