2269
Never Forget (mander.xyz)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Hubi@lemmy.world 119 points 1 month ago

He didn't even share them as far as I know, he just downloaded them. And the trial hadn't started yet when he committed suicide.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He didn't get the chance to share them because he was caught downloading them, and his download requests were getting blocked.

And to be clear, he wasn't downloading from the Internet as one might download a car, he went into a restricted networking closet and connected directly to the switch, leaving a computer sitting there sending access requests. He had to keep going back to it to check on the progress, which is when they caught him.

And the trial hadn't started yet when he committed suicide.

Yeah, I agree with the sentiment of the post, but this is just wildly misleading. He was not sentenced to anything, he committed suicide before the trial.

He was given a plea deal for 6 months that he rejected, in an effort to make the feds justify the ludicrous charges they were pressing. Had it gone to trial, he certainly wouldn't have been found not guilty, but it's unlikely many of those charges would have stuck. It's extremely unlikely he would actually have served 35 years.

[-] LodeMike 12 points 1 month ago

Downloading isn't a crime, is it?

He was being charged under the CFAA, a hacking criminal statute that prohibits unauthorized access to computer systems. It was controversially being stretched to cover Aaron's conduct that violated TOS by an ambitious prosecutor.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Are TOS violations felonies now?

Yes, technically any TOS violation is one ambitious prosecutor away from a felony, thanks to the CFAA.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Can I make my own TOS that corporations agree to when they endorse a check I pay a bill with?

You certainly can! And they will discard that check, charge you for failure to pay your bill, and refuse to negotiate with you in any way.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I’m thinking they endorse those checks without reading every single detail on the check.

[-] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you want to read about how we got into this fucked up situation I'd recommend The Hacker Crackdown by Bruce Sterling (a notorious cyberpunk sf writer among other things) https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/101

[-] LodeMike 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's uh... It makes sense if you don't think about it. The access was probably authorized, the use wasn't.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

There is a difference between illegal and unauthorized. If I go into a store that doesn't allow trying on the clothes before you buy and I try a shirt on, I haven't broken a law. It still isn't authorized. The store can throw me out, but I shouldn't be charged with shoplifting.

What Aaron was doing wasn't even unauthorized. He was just doing more of it than they liked. In the example above, it would be like bringing 20 (or 2000...) pieces of clothing to the change room when there's a 5 piece limit. Again, it shouldn't be illegal, and the site could have enforced account limits if that was their issue instead of relying on bandwidth limits doing the job for them.

Now, the only thing left to question is how he hooked up the computer doing the downloading. I don't know about the legality of that, but he was accused of illegally accessing the website, not the university network, so I'm guessing even the prosecutor who was trying to expand the scope of the DMCA law didn't see a way he could charge him with anything on that front.

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 10 points 1 month ago

No, but he obviously felt that JSTOR could persuade a court to make it one. Poor kid.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

You wouldn't download a car would you??

[-] LodeMike 4 points 1 month ago

Oh I absolutely would.

[-] MamboGator@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I downloaded a whole bunch of cars when I played Forza Horizon.

this post was submitted on 11 May 2024
2269 points (98.1% liked)

Science Memes

9169 readers
2434 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.


Sister Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS