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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

i wonder how long before the antiwoke fork

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

made me wonder if devuan is still a thing and holy shit it is

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the backstory with Devuan? I first heard of it from someone licking Andrew Lee's boots after the Freenode debacle, and that instantly branded it as really suspect. But it might just be Debian minus systemd?

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In 2015 Debian officially dropped the requirement that packages support sysvinit scripts and only required systemd support. Devuan is indeed intended to be a fork that only removes systemd and maintains support for other inits like sysvinit, openrc, runit, etc.

Last time I looked (and it has been a while) the anti-systemd origin story had attracted a few nutters, but I didn't see anything suspicious about the dev team itself...

EDIT: I see a couple connections to cryptocoin crap, but no smoking gun yet. Still digging.

EDIT2: wtf am I looking at: https://dyne.org/software/dynebolic/ strange vibes all over this.

EDIT3: Seems like the cryptocoiner, Set Hallström AKA Setto Sakrecoer, is the main dev/organizer of devuan? The structure of devuan and dyne.org does not seem to be set out, instead it's an informal "do-ocracy" with a whole mess of normal and weird projects in a loose constellation.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago

finally, an operating system worthy of all your favorite urbit services